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re: So, expanding to 4 teams hasn't resolved the BCS selection issues?
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:39 am to biglego
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:39 am to biglego
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I complained. I think it’s dumb. What was it, 9-7 Giants became the Super Bowl champs over the 16-0 Patriots Bc they won the rematch? It was a farce and I’d rather not have that in college.
It produced one of the greatest moments in Superbowl history.
And if Randy Moss doesn't stop running on the last drive he catches a walk off TD to win it for the Patriots.
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Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:40 am to SlowFlowPro
This can be discussed, and has been, until we're all blue in the face. There simply is no right answer. No matter what changes are made, they will result in something that some group will perceive as unfair. This group will change from year to year and will be comprised of the fanbase of the teams who are barely left out.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:41 am to SlowFlowPro
Scrap bowls...go to a playoff system...works for every other sports league on planet earth.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:41 am to lsupride87
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To make a conference champ game, one must be good
Let’s not pretend there hasn’t been 3-loss conference champs. Obvious example- LSU 2001. No way did that team deserve a playoff spot over Florida or even Tenn.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:42 am to TH03
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Go to an NFL type model. 8 conference games then 4 against another conference.
that could work with a super conference but not how things are now
this goes back to how the structure of CFB is just different
you have to get all the conferences to agree and very few will agree to that set structure. hell earlier i was talking about how conferences hold all the power but even within conferences, the power structure is not even. so you'd have to get all the conferences to agree, which means all the power players within each conference would have to agree
that's why you'd have to fundamentally change the entire CFB universe (a super conference would do that)
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:42 am to biglego
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Let’s not pretend there hasn’t been 3-loss conference champs. Obvious example- LSU 2001. No way did that team deserve a playoff spot over Florida or even Tenn.
Then they should of handled their business.
Only in CFP is style points a fricking thing.
Sean Payton must of thought about style points in the loss Sunday when he kicked that fricking FG in the 4th
.Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:43 am to 50_Tiger
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should of
quote:Jesus Christ
must of
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:44 am to lsupride87
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Every year so far the BCS rankings have produced the same 4 teams as the committee
That's interesting. Do you have a link to this? It will be interesting to see if this is the case this year.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:45 am to SlowFlowPro
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oh 100%
using a secret committee with no set structure was absolutely terrible and i lost my mind when that was the choice
it's completely worse than the BCS b/c teams have no clue what they have to do exactly b/c the standards changes annually
So far the CFP committee has no doubt chosen the top 4 teams correctly each time (based on resumes). They are allowed to look at computer models and all types of statistics in making their decisions, but are able to intervene when and if the computer models don't "add up."
All P5 teams know they have to go undefeated to guarantee their spot in the playoffs. If you don't go undefeated then you should just be thankful for the opportunity if you get it.
This post was edited on 11/28/17 at 9:47 am
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:46 am to StrongBackWeakMind
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Jesus Christ
Ah, my bad I forgot to read the MSB rules about posting correct grammar at all times. Let me turn on Grammarly real quick to appease you, master.
Edit: GFY
This post was edited on 11/28/17 at 9:47 am
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:46 am to SlowFlowPro
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that's why you'd have to fundamentally change the entire CFB universe
That's what needs to happen though. This subjective poll and committee bullshite isn't the answer. We don't determine game results on paper so why do we determine who is best mostly on paper?
The answer is to have a set criteria for 8-12 teams to meet to make the playoffs and determine it on the field. The easiest way to do that is an NFL style division split and seeding/homefield advantage based on record. Reward division winners and still have 2-4 wild cards.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:47 am to 50_Tiger
You are forgiven.
EDIT: no thank you.
EDIT: no thank you.
This post was edited on 11/28/17 at 9:48 am
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:48 am to TH03
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The answer is to have a set criteria for 8-12 teams to meet to make the playoffs and determine it on the field. The easiest way to do that is an NFL style division split and seeding/homefield advantage based on record. Reward division winners and still have 2-4 wild cards.
Make a West Coast Conference and an East Coast?
Or pair two conferences together?
How would the TV money work?
This is something that would take a couple years to figure out.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:48 am to Solo
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go to a playoff system...works for every other sports league on planet earth.
the sport closest to CFB in structure, soccer, doesn't have that
the champions league does, but that's a different monster and would be unworkable in CFB (but would be cool to see happen)
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:49 am to 50_Tiger
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Only in CFP is style points a fricking thing.
style points?
it's about sample size
12 games > 1 game
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:49 am to SlowFlowPro
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which has led to possibly even more teams having an argument every year?
we have double the amount of teams with a title shot now than we used to. Some people will just never be happy.
And realistically, if after 13 games you are 5th you've likely done somethign to take yourself out of contention.
-bama isn't going to win their division
-OSU lost 2 games and was absolutely shellakced and depantsed by an average team
-TCU lost 2 games
-UGA would have 2 losses and no conf title (if we are excluded)
-miami would have 2 losses and no conf title (same as above)
-clemson would have 2 losses and no conf title and an embarrassing loss to an inferior opponent
If we expand to 8 all that will do is make the 9th place team bitch and moan. 4 is plenty fine as it is.
This post was edited on 11/28/17 at 9:50 am
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:49 am to SlowFlowPro
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the sport closest to CFB in structure, soccer, doesn't have that
the champions league does, but that's a different monster and would be unworkable in CFB (but would be cool to see happen)
I can't follow the way soccer determines a champion. Too many tournaments.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:50 am to 50_Tiger
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Outside of the 2007 and 2012 Giants, which Superbowl team in the last 17 years wasn't considered the best?
I gave you the only two up for discussion
You could say that’s two in the last ten years. But i get your point. For the most part, the NFL system gets it right. But I’d say the same about the BCS or the current college playoff format. What years since 1998 did the college system completely screw up? There have been deserving teams left out, but has an undeserving team ever won it? And the four team playoff system avoids the 2004 Auburn situation.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:50 am to 50_Tiger
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Or pair two conferences together?
How would the TV money work?
yeah it's good in theory but almost impossible in reality
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:51 am to WG_Dawg
quote:The problem is that every team in the top 6 has done something to take themselves out of consideration, with the exception of Wisky.
And realistically, if after 13 games you are 5th you've likely done somethign to take yourself out of contention.
This post was edited on 11/28/17 at 9:52 am
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