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So, expanding to 4 teams hasn't resolved the BCS selection issues?
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:20 am
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:20 am
and may have created more controversy by lowering the standards to get the entitlement of a birth for a shot at the championship, which has led to possibly even more teams having an argument every year?
color me shocked...SHOCKED, i tell you
the fact that so many people are already arguing for yet ANOTHER expansion of the title selection process would be hilarious if it wasn't so obvious during the BCS era. these are the exact issues with expansion that was argued for years by BCS proponents like myself. any expansion will lead to even more controversy, unless you do something irrational like make it conference winners only (which, at that point, the scenario is a sham as it has no interest in a process of finding the best team and is a scenario based in equity and simple thinking)
color me shocked...SHOCKED, i tell you
the fact that so many people are already arguing for yet ANOTHER expansion of the title selection process would be hilarious if it wasn't so obvious during the BCS era. these are the exact issues with expansion that was argued for years by BCS proponents like myself. any expansion will lead to even more controversy, unless you do something irrational like make it conference winners only (which, at that point, the scenario is a sham as it has no interest in a process of finding the best team and is a scenario based in equity and simple thinking)
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Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:22 am to SlowFlowPro
Why is college football the only sport that wants to find the best? It's so subjective.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:23 am to SlowFlowPro
It should be 6 teams, which would eliminate MOST complaining
5 conference champions plus a wildcard
Win your conference and your in
Still rewards the best 2 teams by giving them a bye making the regular season hugely important and teams won't tank games
Still gives a team in a stacked conference chance to be the wild card team
5 conference champions plus a wildcard
Win your conference and your in
Still rewards the best 2 teams by giving them a bye making the regular season hugely important and teams won't tank games
Still gives a team in a stacked conference chance to be the wild card team
This post was edited on 11/28/17 at 9:24 am
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:24 am to TH03
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Why is college football the only sport that wants to find the best? It's so subjective.
Best = best resume.
Making it all about "best resume" keeps the regular season as the most important regular season in sports, which is what makes college football so special.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:25 am to TH03
quote:
Why is college football the only sport that wants to find the best?
why would you want a title selection method that doesn't seek to do his as best as possible?
and to give a more descriptive answer, and one that applies to all of the issues involved, CFB, unlike almost an other sport (except European soccer) is a sport comprised of powerful conferences/leagues with a very weak authority overlapping these leagues
the leagues are uneven in both talent, quality, and power with no unifying power over them in this area
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:25 am to lsupride87
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Still rewards the best 2 teams by giving them a bye
No way could that be controversial.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:25 am to SlowFlowPro
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SlowFlowPro
Why does it offend people that 2 & 3 loss teams could get into a REAL playoff?
Nobody complains when an NFC East team scoots in @ 9-7.
There should be a study done on CFP fan logical thought processing.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:26 am to lsupride87
6 would be ideal, although I don't think it should be P5 Championship dependent. Top 6 in the rankings go.
Next best is 8.
Next best is 8.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:26 am to lsupride87
quote:
5 conference champions plus a wildcard
at that point, just make it a 16 team playoff and fundamentally change college football's highest division
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:27 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:frick that. It fricking makes the regular season almost worthless.
at that point, just make it a 16 team playoff
LSU would be in this year.....
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:27 am to SlowFlowPro
The exclusivity of the playoffs loses its luster each time someone says expand it to 6, 8, etc teams
It should be hard to make it in to the playoffs. Not automatically granted because you won some slapstick conference championship
It should be hard to make it in to the playoffs. Not automatically granted because you won some slapstick conference championship
This post was edited on 11/28/17 at 9:29 am
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:27 am to 50_Tiger
quote:
Why does it offend people that 2 & 3 loss teams could get into a REAL playoff?
Nobody complains when an NFC East team scoots in @ 9-7.
There should be a study done on CFP fan logical thought processing.
Because college football fans want every game in the regular season to have as much weight as possible.
This post was edited on 11/28/17 at 9:28 am
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:27 am to 50_Tiger
quote:
Why does it offend people that 2 & 3 loss teams could get into a REAL playoff?
Nobody complains when an NFC East team scoots in @ 9-7.
a. the NFL is much more even in terms of quality
b. the NFL championship process is not ideal for establishing the best team, which is what CFB has tried to do for decades. when you promote that process, you're ultimately creating a fundamental shift in what CFB is
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:29 am to lsupride87
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frick that. It fricking makes the regular season almost worthless.
requiring conference titles does the same, essentially
when you give auto-bids, you're allowing mediocre teams (either by lucky conference title wins or shitty conferences) the same entitlement as the elite of the elite. you're ceding the regular season with any auto-bid system
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:29 am to SlowFlowPro
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why would you want a title selection method that doesn't seek to do his as best as possible?
I don't think it's possible because it will always be subjective as hell.
Take a team like UCF. they will never get a shot because people think they aren't as good because of their resume. You can only play the teams in front of you. Playing a weaker schedule doesn't necessarily mean you're a weaker team.
Until we have an NFL or MLB system if division winners and wild cards, it will never be an objective champion. College football has been doing this for decades and still haven't found a way to do it right, which is very telling of the whole process.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:29 am to SlowFlowPro
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the NFL championship process is not ideal for establishing the best team, which is what CFB has tried to do for decades. when you promote that process, you're ultimately creating a fundamental shift in what CFB is
Outside of the 2007 and 2012 Giants, which Superbowl team in the last 17 years wasn't considered the best?
I gave you the only two up for discussion
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:29 am to Jon Ham
quote:Then don't let schools schedule bullshite games.
Because college football fans want every game in the regular season to have as much weight as possible.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:30 am to Jon Ham
quote:
Because college football fans want every game in the regular season to have as much weight as possible.
But you realize you will never reach that sort of pinnacle?
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:30 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
a. the NFL is much more even in terms of quality
We need to trim the fat and have like 60 teams total and just get rid of the g5 teams. Parity would be much closer to the NFL then.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:31 am to TH03
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We need to trim the fat and have like 60 teams total and just get rid of the g5 teams. Parity would be much closer to the NFL then.
This is what really needs to happen.
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