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re: So Bill Simmons said Duncan > Shaq
Posted on 5/22/13 at 10:02 pm to fightingtigers98
Posted on 5/22/13 at 10:02 pm to fightingtigers98
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bill simmons is awesome
anyone who thinks Duncan was better than shaq is retarded
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Posted on 5/22/13 at 10:02 pm to reb13
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Duncan's career >> shaqs career
uhhhh no
Posted on 5/22/13 at 10:04 pm to Lester Earl
Id argue Barkley was better in his prime than Duncan
Posted on 5/22/13 at 10:06 pm to Cosmo
Offensively there is no question, but I would still take Duncan due to his size and superior defense.
You can't make any argument of taking Duncan over Shaq.
You can't make any argument of taking Duncan over Shaq.
Posted on 5/23/13 at 2:37 am to Lester Earl
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Duncan's career >> shaqs career
uhhhh no
2 MVPS and 4 championships, still playing at an all-NBA level at 37. yes that's accurate Lester-you ignorant frick.
Posted on 5/23/13 at 2:38 am to PortCityTiger24
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You can't make any argument of taking Duncan over Shaq.
Sure the argument is do you want to compete for titles for 15 years or 5 years?
Posted on 5/23/13 at 2:52 am to RonBurgundy
Duncan has stayed near his peak longer but Shaq had 12 legit seasons starting the in 93-94 season and ending in the 2004-2005 season. He should have probably been even more dominant even longer but he didn't work hard enough to maximize that potential.
Posted on 5/23/13 at 3:07 am to molsusports
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He should have probably been even more dominant even longer but he didn't work hard enough to maximize that potential.
that's part of the argument though. For every Shaq fan there is always the apology of "if he did this.." Well Duncan did do it, and should recognized for it. The dude has won 50 games in every year of his career. His team has been a contender for 15+years something not one player in his generation can say (Shaq, Kobe or KG).
What's easier? Being the indestructible force for 4 years or being the best player you can for 15 years?
If anyone of us were GM of a team, knowing the outcome, we'd take Duncan over Shaq all day.
This post was edited on 5/23/13 at 3:10 am
Posted on 5/23/13 at 3:17 am to RonBurgundy
I know where you're coming from but IMO most people would say Shaq was the more dominant player for 12 years of his 19 year career.
I love Tim Duncan and generally feel like he is criminally under-appreciated. It is incredible for a center (IMO yes he's a center) like TD to still be so productive in his 16th year in the NBA esp after playing four extremely productive years in college...
But having said all those things Dunca's peak years were not as good and his NBA career is still three years short of Shaq's.
edited to change 20 to 19 (# seasons Shaq played in the NBA)
I love Tim Duncan and generally feel like he is criminally under-appreciated. It is incredible for a center (IMO yes he's a center) like TD to still be so productive in his 16th year in the NBA esp after playing four extremely productive years in college...
But having said all those things Dunca's peak years were not as good and his NBA career is still three years short of Shaq's.
edited to change 20 to 19 (# seasons Shaq played in the NBA)
This post was edited on 5/23/13 at 3:23 am
Posted on 5/23/13 at 6:14 am to molsusports
Not intending to flame, but did Shaq win anything in the NBA before he move to Kobe land? I don't think Orlando won a title while he was there, did they?
Posted on 5/23/13 at 6:16 am to Cosmo
I disagree, but do people see it differently if Duncan gets his fifth ring this year?
This post was edited on 5/23/13 at 6:17 am
Posted on 5/23/13 at 6:37 am to kywildcatfanone
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Not intending to flame, but did Shaq win anything in the NBA before he move to Kobe land? I don't think Orlando won a title while he was there, did they?
To be fair, nobody won anything while Jordan was around
Posted on 5/23/13 at 7:16 am to KBeezy
They lost to Hakeem, not Jordan.
Posted on 5/23/13 at 7:16 am to TulaneTigerFan
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I didn't really get his argument. He was basing it on Duncan's 16 year career being better than Shaq's due to longevity, but he used that rationale as to why he'd prefer Duncan on a 5 man all-time team.
Well I'd want Duncan on that team over Shaq too. Timmy is far and away the best PF of all time, while there are 5 comparable centers to shaq (maybe not 5 but at least 3). You compare Duncan to Malone Barkley and it's really not that close overall
If I'm doing a starting 5 all time and i can only have shaq or Duncan I'm taking Duncan
Posted on 5/23/13 at 8:31 am to PortCityTiger24
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So you would take Duncan in his prime over Shaq in his prime?
Anyone who says yes to this is absolutely dumb.
Shaq in his prime is the most dominant player in the modern era. (Wilt and Russell don't count for this cause they played whities)
He was quite literally unstoppable.
Posted on 5/23/13 at 8:31 am to TulaneTigerFan
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Shaq at his peak was clearly better than Duncan. That shouldn't even be debatable
Yeeeaaap.
Posted on 5/23/13 at 8:33 am to PortCityTiger24
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I would still take Duncan due to his size and superior defense.
Posted on 5/23/13 at 8:35 am to TheCaterpillar
If the Spurs were to somehow win the ship this season Tim Duncan will have won rings in 3 different decades. That would be pretty f'n impressive.
Posted on 5/23/13 at 8:52 am to Cosmo
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They lost to Hakeem, not Jordan.
In 1996, the magic won 60 games. The Bulls won 72 games and beat them in the ECF.
Posted on 5/23/13 at 9:03 am to AreJay
Shaq in his prime was far better than Duncan in his prime. Not even a question of which player you took at his greatest. And Shaq was not the dominant force for 5 years. He was the dominant force from 93-2005. Noone could stop him. I can buy Duncan being a more complete player, but 99% of people would take Shaq over Duncan if they were starting a franchise.
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