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Posted on 5/22/13 at 7:40 pm to kywildcatfanone
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Can he hit more than 30% of his free throws for his career. Then yes, he is.
Well this is stupid
Posted on 5/22/13 at 7:40 pm to Reginald C Perrin
To me and I've had this argument before but I would take Duncan or Shaq over Kobe everyday of the week.
Kobe is an explosive scorer but he can't win titles without Shaq, or Pau and a semi productive Bynum as well as Phil Jackson. When Shaq left the Lakers limped along while Kobe scored 80 and they got trounced in the playoffs.
Duncan and Shaq helped anchor different teams/squads to championships because they were effective on both sides of the floor and allowed team mates to be better. To me it's
1a Duncan
1b Shaq
2 possibly Kobe
Kobe is an explosive scorer but he can't win titles without Shaq, or Pau and a semi productive Bynum as well as Phil Jackson. When Shaq left the Lakers limped along while Kobe scored 80 and they got trounced in the playoffs.
Duncan and Shaq helped anchor different teams/squads to championships because they were effective on both sides of the floor and allowed team mates to be better. To me it's
1a Duncan
1b Shaq
2 possibly Kobe
Posted on 5/22/13 at 7:45 pm to WalkingTurtles
Shaq at his best is better than timmay
Duncan is far more consistent and durable than Shaq and that is what Simmons is talking about when he says Duncan is a better overall player
Duncan's career stats are a straight line on a graph
Duncan is far more consistent and durable than Shaq and that is what Simmons is talking about when he says Duncan is a better overall player
Duncan's career stats are a straight line on a graph
Posted on 5/22/13 at 7:47 pm to WalkingTurtles
It's funny because in his book he has this huge part at the beginning talking about how people are always looking for someone to be better than an older player because we stop seeing that older player on the court, so forth and so on, and how that is wrong to do to the older players.
Well, pot meet kettle. No one dominated down low like Shaq did, whether he be on the Magic, Lakers or Heat (things started going south after that). Don't get me wrong, Duncan is a great player, but he is not better than Shaq
Well, pot meet kettle. No one dominated down low like Shaq did, whether he be on the Magic, Lakers or Heat (things started going south after that). Don't get me wrong, Duncan is a great player, but he is not better than Shaq
Posted on 5/22/13 at 7:49 pm to jacks40
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Said he was best player of his generation. Took him over Kobe as well.
he might be right. If Duncan wins a Finals MVP at 37 and his fifth ring, you have to put him ahead of shaq.
Posted on 5/22/13 at 7:52 pm to wildtigercat93
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Well this is stupid
So, that's not an important part of the game. OK.
It shows that Duncan is a more complete player.
Posted on 5/22/13 at 7:54 pm to kywildcatfanone
More complete and far less dominant.
Posted on 5/22/13 at 8:01 pm to kywildcatfanone
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Can he hit more than 30% of his free throws for his career. Then yes, he is.
We'll just ignore the fact that Shaq had 58.2% FG percentage while Duncan has shot 50.7%. Shaq also scored 3.5 Pt/Gm
Posted on 5/22/13 at 8:05 pm to kywildcatfanone
Shaq had, imo, the most lethal drop step ever in the NBA. Literally unstoppable.
Duncan is great in his own right, but he's no Shaq.
Duncan is great in his own right, but he's no Shaq.
This post was edited on 5/22/13 at 8:05 pm
Posted on 5/22/13 at 8:05 pm to jacks40
Would definitely take both over Kobe. Prime Shaq over Duncan. Duncan is Kareem-lite when it comes to longevity -- great coaching and supporting casts help.
Posted on 5/22/13 at 8:12 pm to RonBurgundy
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he might be right. If Duncan wins a Finals MVP at 37 and his fifth ring, you have to put him ahead of shaq.
Why, exactly?
Posted on 5/22/13 at 8:12 pm to mattz1122
2000-2001 Shaq was an unstoppable force. I'm not sure anyone has been as dominant. That being said, Duncan won the title in 03 by himself basically. Robinson was a shell. Parker was trade bait. Manu wasn't really Manu. No player has won more with less around him than Tim Duncan
Kobe missed the playoffs in his prime. No way in hell that happens to Shaq on Duncan
For a career, I'll take Duncan. For a season, I'll take 2000 Shaq. Kobe is just 3rd. Period
Kobe missed the playoffs in his prime. No way in hell that happens to Shaq on Duncan
For a career, I'll take Duncan. For a season, I'll take 2000 Shaq. Kobe is just 3rd. Period
Posted on 5/22/13 at 8:14 pm to kywildcatfanone
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So, that's not an important part of the game. OK.
I never said its not important
Just that that one stat doesnt make Duncan better
In that case Steve Nash > Micheal Jordan
Posted on 5/22/13 at 8:15 pm to Sandkhan
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Kobe missed the playoffs in his prime.
That depends on how Kobe's prime is defined, because it can be argued his prime was right in the middle of the Lakers three peat.
Posted on 5/22/13 at 8:18 pm to RonBurgundy
Kobe had a long prime. Benefit of being a premiter player. But Shaq was the best player on 3 championship teams. Duncan was the best on 4. Kobe was the best on 2....but kinda shite the bed in the Finals as Gasol outplayed him
Posted on 5/22/13 at 8:19 pm to Sandkhan
Pippen is soooo overrated.
Posted on 5/22/13 at 8:21 pm to WalkingTurtles
Shaq had playoff seasons where he could give you 40 points and 20 rebounds when he FELT like it. Now Duncan over an entire career is the better player. But, prime vs prime he isn't even in the convo when it comes to Shaq.
Posted on 5/22/13 at 8:21 pm to Preys on Gumps
Disagree. Pippen was LeBron defensively. He locked wings down. Offense also ran through him a lot. Jordan was asked who the 2nd best player on the dream team was and said "Scottie pippen"
Posted on 5/22/13 at 8:22 pm to Preys on Gumps
Prime Shaq > Prime Duncan.
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