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TexasTiger08
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re: Settle an argument.. Is Vince Young top ten all time?
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His overall numbers were very pedestrian but he was an unbelievably good big game and bowl game QB.


For Elway? He got slaughtered in 3 SBs before winning a couple.


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Hook Em Horns
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re: Settle an argument.. Is Vince Young top ten all time?
Because I have buddies that say absolutely he isn’t.


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Winston Cup
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re: Settle an argument.. Is Vince Young top ten all time?
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So deshaun Watson is up there too I guess

i mean yeah. he won a national title and went for over 500 yds of offense in the title game

upon further review: watson did not win a heisman, but i would still put him over eric crouch fwiw
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cas4t
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re: Settle an argument.. Is Vince Young top ten all time?
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No, the following 10 QBs have better college careers

Manziel
Tebow
Frazier
Staubach
O'Brien
Wuerffel
Manning
Elway
Testaverde
Leinart


you have to be shitting me

and I hate Texas

but this is a horrible list


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Zendog
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re: Settle an argument.. Is Vince Young top ten all time?
His record was 3-3 against Oklahoma& bowl games, doesn’t sound all that great to me


Hook Em Horns
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re: Settle an argument.. Is Vince Young top ten all time?
And lmao at ken dorsey.


TH03
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re: Settle an argument.. Is Vince Young top ten all time?
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His record was 3-3 against Oklahoma& bowl games, doesn’t sound all that great to me


1-0 in national titles against the previously proclaimed GOAT team.


WestCoastAg
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TexasTiger08
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re: Settle an argument.. Is Vince Young top ten all time?
2-0 in Rose Bowls outweighs the loss in the Holiday Bowl.


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bulldog95
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re: Settle an argument.. Is Vince Young top ten all time?
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Manziel
Tebow
Frazier
Staubach
O'Brien
Wuerffel
Manning
Elway
Testaverde
Leinart


You forgot

Vick
Brees
Marino
Rivers
Palmer
Rodgers
Griffin III


I didn’t look at the top 10 but here’s 11-25

this ranking, we focused on the following statistics:

Team win percentage (From seasons when the quarterback was the primary starter or played at least half of the offensive snaps)
Career passer rating
Touchdowns generated per season (All TDs each player threw, ran for or caught during years they were the primary starter)
Total offense per game (All passing yards and yards from scrimmage gained during years they were the primary starter)
Career interception percentage
To qualify for this ranking, a quarterback had to meet a certain minimum threshold in at least four of those categories or in three of them if they were a Heisman Trophy winner. The minimums were .700 team win percentage, 150.0 passer rating, 25 touchdowns per season, 250 yards per game of total offense and less than a 4 percent interception rate.

This left us with 25 eligible quarterbacks.

After identifying the 25 best candidates for this ranking, the scoring system described on the previous slide did the rest of the work. Sixteen finalists were Heisman Trophy winners, but only five of those made the top 10.

Here's who missed the cut:

11. Jameis Winston, Florida State
12. Case Keenum, Houston
13. Robert Griffin III, Baylor
14. Andre Ware, Houston
15. Jason White, Oklahoma
16. Danny Wuerffel, Florida
17. Ty Detmer, BYU
18. Troy Smith, Ohio State
19. Andrew Luck, Stanford
20. Colt McCoy, Texas
21. Chris Weinke, Florida State
22. Gino Torretta, Miami (Florida)
23. Charlie Ward, Florida State
24. Landry Jones, Oklahoma
25. Vince Young, Texas
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Dire Wolf
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1BamaRTR
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re: Settle an argument.. Is Vince Young top ten all time?
How’s that bait? Manziel did have a great career.


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WestCoastAg
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re: Settle an argument.. Is Vince Young top ten all time?
its only bait because texas fans know that manziel was the better player


Falco
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re: Settle an argument.. Is Vince Young top ten all time?
By the numbers, Dorsey is better if we looking at career


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Hook Em Horns
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re: Settle an argument.. Is Vince Young top ten all time?
Yea cause third in the sec west means more than big 12 champs and a national champion and rose bowl champion. Foh


TH03
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re: Settle an argument.. Is Vince Young top ten all time?
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its only bait because texas fans know that manziel was the better player


Image: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4vZaiRUoAA9pVW.jpg


I don't think Texas will trade.


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9th Green At 9
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re: Settle an argument.. Is Vince Young top ten all time?
1. Dorsey was way better than VY in college.
2. Manziel was way better than VY in college.
3. Your buddies are correct in that he does not have a seat in the all time top 10 list.
4. This thread proved that.


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WestCoastAg
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re: Settle an argument.. Is Vince Young top ten all time?
i have absolutely no idea what those team accomplishments mean when discussing individual players skill and statistics but alright


TH03
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re: Settle an argument.. Is Vince Young top ten all time?
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i have absolutely no idea what those team accomplishments mean when discussing individual players skill and statistics but alright


Yeah because you don't have the team accomplishments to fall back on.

VY that year completed 65% for 3000 yards 26/10 TD/int, and ran for 1000 with 12 more TDs at 7 YPC.

In that title game he completed 75% for 267 and ran for 200 and 3 TDs.

In their last games, Young played lights out and won a title. Manziel barely beat Duke in the chicken bowl.


Winston Cup
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re: Settle an argument.. Is Vince Young top ten all time?
reggie mcneal was better than manziel, manziel just had a better team around him. particularly the offensive line


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