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re: Settle a bar bet
Posted on 7/11/12 at 4:12 pm to bbr12
Posted on 7/11/12 at 4:12 pm to bbr12
quote:
Team 1:
PG C. Paul
SG K. Bryant
SF L. James
PF K. Malone
C S. O'Nea
quote:
Team 2:
PG Magic
SG M. Jordan
SF L. Bird
PF T. Duncan
C W. Chamberlin
Bryant, James and O'Neal are terrific individual players. They can get to where they need to go. However, they would be guarded by Jordan, Bird and Chamberlain. The only clear edge is James over Bird due to size and quickness (and versatility). Malone vs. Duncan? I can make a case for either. The benches make the difference.
If you include Isiah Thomas instead of Chris Paul, you may have a case for Team 1. Otherwise, I'd choose Team 2.
This post was edited on 7/11/12 at 4:14 pm
Posted on 7/11/12 at 4:12 pm to molsusports
Everything I'm finding has Wilt at 275 and Shaq at 325.
Posted on 7/11/12 at 4:14 pm to CocomoLSU
look for wilt's weights with the Lakers
he was lighter when he was younger and he lost weight after retiring, but he was around 325-330 when he won with West and Baylor
he was lighter when he was younger and he lost weight after retiring, but he was around 325-330 when he won with West and Baylor
Posted on 7/11/12 at 4:25 pm to bbr12
Is the guy who picked team 1 older than 25? I mean Durant is not a top 25 player all time. Ray Allen is not a top 25 player of all time. Rodman is not a top 25 player of all time. Paul is not a top 5 PG of all time.
Team 2 is 10 of the best 25 players ever...except for maybe Dirk but his game is extremely unique.
Team 1 has maybe 7...and they have too many PFs and only 1 PG total
Team 2 is 10 of the best 25 players ever...except for maybe Dirk but his game is extremely unique.
Team 1 has maybe 7...and they have too many PFs and only 1 PG total
Posted on 7/11/12 at 5:01 pm to Buckeye06
quote:
Paul is not a top 5 PG of all time.
Huh?
This is in their prime, which is usually a 2-3 year stretch of play. Paul can put together stats that show he is EASILY a top 5 PG of all time.
quote:
I mean Durant is not a top 25 player all time
Accomplishments? No. Statistically and skill set at the moment? Most definitely.
Posted on 7/11/12 at 5:27 pm to slackster
I can give you 5 now
Stockton
Magic
Kidd
Nash
Robertson
Thomas
Actually I'll give you 6. And don't tell me Paul is better than Kidd or Nash. This LSU site is blinded by the homerism for the Hornets. Guy is a good PG but I'm not even sure he's the best in the league today
Stockton
Magic
Kidd
Nash
Robertson
Thomas
Actually I'll give you 6. And don't tell me Paul is better than Kidd or Nash. This LSU site is blinded by the homerism for the Hornets. Guy is a good PG but I'm not even sure he's the best in the league today
Posted on 7/11/12 at 5:31 pm to Buckeye06
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Stockton
Magic
Putting Stockton over Magic is just a shame.DUDE Come on.
Posted on 7/11/12 at 5:32 pm to dukke v
quote:
Stockton
Magic
Putting Stockton over Magic is just a shame.DUDE Come on.
Wasn't ranking them DUDE. Was saying 5 that are better than Paul
Posted on 7/11/12 at 5:35 pm to Buckeye06
quote:
Wasn't ranking them DUDE. Was saying 5 that are better than Paul
OK.
Posted on 7/11/12 at 5:38 pm to molsusports
quote:
you think the guy in the middle is likely the strongest one of the three?
Yes. I seriously doubt Wilt could touch Arnold on a squat, deadlift, straight bar curl, etc.
Posted on 7/11/12 at 5:38 pm to Buckeye06
quote:He's absolutely better than Nash.
don't tell me Paul is better than Kidd or Nash.
Posted on 7/11/12 at 5:40 pm to bbr12
Where is the Big O? Where is the NBA's all-time scoring leader? I don't even want to answer your question anymore.
Posted on 7/11/12 at 5:49 pm to Brodeur
quote:
Shaq is unstoppable in his prime. He would push poor Wilt around.
This is just funny. Wilt is one of the greatist all round athletes to play the game. He would run Oneals arse out of the gym.
This post was edited on 7/11/12 at 5:51 pm
Posted on 7/11/12 at 8:24 pm to Buckeye06
quote:
And don't tell me Paul is better than Kidd or Nash.
At his peak, he is absolutely better than Kidd and Nash.
Posted on 7/11/12 at 8:44 pm to NawlinsTiger9
Interesting non-verifiable bet, but I'd say Team 2 easily. If they played best of 7. Team two would win in 5 games. Team 2 physically on par w/ team 1 (actually maybe more considering the "in their prime" qualification) but Team 2 is comprised of the basketball "team" players ever.. their basketball IQ would be collectively off the charts. If the additional condition of "without coaching" was added...I'd bet pretty much anything I could get my hands on that Team 2 would win. I think they could just join up and and beat Team 1. The free throw contest between Shaq and Wilt would be interesting.
I'd like to see Maravich added. I would put him up against any G in the game today.
I'd like to see Maravich added. I would put him up against any G in the game today.
Posted on 7/11/12 at 8:47 pm to Buckeye06
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Actually I'll give you 6. And don't tell me Paul is better than Kidd or Nash
Paul's Peak, 2008 and 2009 was better than any season Nash or Kidd has, by a decent margin too.
Top 3 PER seasons of all time for PGs, ALL belong to Chris Paul, for crying out loud
This post was edited on 7/11/12 at 8:52 pm
Posted on 7/11/12 at 8:56 pm to shel311
Team 2.
Any team that has both Magic and MJ is going to be extremely difficult to prevent from scoring. And Magic and MJ could play together. Magic gives the ball up.
Any team that has both Magic and MJ is going to be extremely difficult to prevent from scoring. And Magic and MJ could play together. Magic gives the ball up.
Posted on 7/11/12 at 9:00 pm to bomber77
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This is just funny. Wilt is one of the greatist all round athletes to play the game. He would run Oneals arse out of the gym.
Silly.
Posted on 7/11/12 at 9:07 pm to molsusports
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I love Shaq but I think you take Wilt in that matchup. He was stronger, almost as big, and much more athletic.
I don't know why you are so convinced Wilt is stronger than Shaq, Shaq is bigger, he is as much of a freak athlete as Wilt, and has had the benefits of extensive weight training more so than Wilt enjoyed. I would be willing to bet that in their basketball primes Shaq was stronger.
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