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re: Scherzer suspended 10 games for foreign substance
Posted on 4/20/23 at 8:57 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
Posted on 4/20/23 at 8:57 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
quote:
I am not wrong. There is no rule about stickiness. Period.
Here is a [link=(LINK)]https://baseballrulesacademy.com/official-rule/mlb/6-02-pitcher-illegal-action/[/link] to the actual rules as written word for word in the official MLB rule book.
and here is the actual wording quoted out for you.
I'll even put the rule he broke in Bold for to make it easier for you to follow.
quote:
(c) Pitching Prohibitions
The pitcher shall not:
(1) While in the 18-foot circle surrounding the pitcher’s plate, touch the ball after touching his mouth or lips, or touch his mouth or lips while he is in contact with the pitcher’s plate. The pitcher must clearly wipe the fingers of his pitching hand dry before touching the ball or the pitcher’s plate.
EXCEPTION: Provided it is agreed to by both managers, the umpire prior to the start of a game played in cold weather, may permit the pitcher to blow on his hand.
PENALTY: For violation of this part of this rule the umpires shall immediately remove the ball from play and issue a warning to the pitcher. Any subsequent violation shall be called a ball. However, if the pitch is made and a batter reaches first base on a hit, an error, a hit batsman or otherwise, and no other runner is put out before advancing at least one base, the play shall proceed without reference to the violation. Repeat offenders shall be subject to a fine by the League President.
(2) expectorate on the ball, either hand or his glove;
(3) rub the ball on his glove, person or clothing;
(4) apply a foreign substance of any kind to the ball;
(5) deface the ball in any manner; or
(6) deliver a ball altered in a manner prescribed by Rule 6.02(c)(2) through (5) or what is called the “shine” ball, “spit” ball, “mud” ball or “emery” ball. The pitcher is allowed to rub the ball between his bare hands.
(7) Have on his person, or in his possession, any foreign substance. Rule 6.02 (c)(7) Comment: The pitcher may not attach anything to either hand, any finger or either wrist (e.g., Band-Aid, tape, Super Glue, bracelet, etc.). The umpire shall determine if such attachment is indeed a foreign substance for the purpose of Rule 6.02(c)(7), but in no case may the pitcher be allowed to pitch with such attachment to his hand, finger or wrist.
there is no exception for having Rosin on your person or rubbing it on the ball.
never has been.
and just in case you need help with that part as well:
[link=(LINK)]https://baseballrulesacademy.com/official-rule/mlb/3-01-the-ball/[/link] to MLB rule 3.01
and official text of rule 3.01
quote:
3.01 The Ball
The ball shall be a sphere formed by yarn wound around a small core of cork, rubber or similar material, covered with two strips of white horsehide or cowhide, tightly stitched together. It shall weigh not less than five nor more than 5 1/4 ounces avoirdupois and measure not less than nine nor more than 9. inches in circumference.
No player shall intentionally discolor or damage the ball by rubbing it with soil, rosin, paraffin, licorice, sand-paper, emery-paper or other foreign substance.
PENALTY: The umpire shall demand the ball and remove the offender from the game. In addition, the offender shall be suspended automatically for 10 games. For rules in regard to a pitcher defacing the ball, see Rules 6.02(c)(2) through (6).
Rosin is specifically prohibited.
and the penalty is an automatic 10 game suspension.
Thank you, drive through
This post was edited on 4/20/23 at 8:58 pm
Posted on 4/20/23 at 8:59 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
Damn, that’s what now the 5th or 6th poster to prove you 100% wrong. It’s been awhile since I’ve seen someone get owned this completely. Maybe call some more people names, it seems to soothe your fragile ego.
This post was edited on 4/20/23 at 9:00 pm
Posted on 4/20/23 at 9:01 pm to Madking
quote:
Madking

We got him.
That poster, like you, is incorrect about what they’re reading and how it applies to what happened to Scherzer.
Posted on 4/20/23 at 9:03 pm to Goldrush25
Maybe we should start asking why Phil Cuzzi is the only ump getting guys suspended for foreign substances? That’s a little shady.
Posted on 4/20/23 at 9:06 pm to Madking
Yep.
At no point was Scherzer accused of applying resin to the ball. MLB rules clearly define the use of resin on the pitcher’s hand as being permissible, which is what Scherzer was doing.
You sho is dumb.
At no point was Scherzer accused of applying resin to the ball. MLB rules clearly define the use of resin on the pitcher’s hand as being permissible, which is what Scherzer was doing.
You sho is dumb.
Posted on 4/20/23 at 9:08 pm to ProjectP2294
I don’t know if it’s shady, but he definitely thinks he’s more important than he is.
Like that decrepit old frick Madking.
Like that decrepit old frick Madking.
Posted on 4/20/23 at 9:12 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
You lie a lot too.
Posted on 4/20/23 at 9:19 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
Again you prove me right and btw your generation is the first for this country to regress in intelligence so I dunno why you’re so happy to announce your stupidity to the rest of us.
Posted on 4/20/23 at 9:22 pm to Madking
quote:
btw your generation is the first for this country to regress in intelligence so I dunno why you’re so happy to announce your stupidity to the rest of us
Will also be the first generation to send the elderly to camps.

Posted on 4/20/23 at 9:24 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
WOW
All anyone needs to know is that he's not appealing.
All anyone needs to know is that he's not appealing.
This post was edited on 4/20/23 at 9:31 pm
Posted on 4/20/23 at 9:26 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
Your generation can’t and doesn’t do anything to anyone. Boomers and X pull all the strings. Not sure you know what a boomer is, probably just heard it online and repeat it like the clapping seal you are. I’m not part of that generation so like every other post in this thread you’re 100% wrong.
Posted on 4/20/23 at 9:26 pm to TexasTiger33
The rule needs to be completely overhauled and re-written. Why baseball is so hesitant to remove as much umpire influence as possible from determining the outcome of games I’ll never understand.
Posted on 4/20/23 at 10:32 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
My question is how is Scherzer’s sweat stickier when added to rosin than any other player?
I think he’s been cheating for a while and not he got caught.
I think he’s been cheating for a while and not he got caught.
Posted on 4/21/23 at 6:50 am to SteelerBravesDawg
Posted on 4/21/23 at 7:05 am to mullenite
quote:
Anthony DiComo
@AnthonyDiComo
Umpire Dan Bellino (through a pool reporter) says that Max Scherzer's hand "was so sticky that when we touched his hand, our fingers were sticking to his hand. And whatever was on there remained on our fingers afterwards for a couple innings."
7:08 PM · Apr 19, 2023
Posted on 4/21/23 at 7:32 am to TigerOnTheMountain
quote:
you want to simp for MLB umpires
Grow up
Posted on 4/21/23 at 7:48 am to TigerOnTheMountain
quote:
This ump just arbitrarily determining what’s too sticky is such a MLB umpire move it’s pathetic
Its also the same ump throwing out all or at least the majority of pitchers that have been thrown out since the rule got implemented
Posted on 4/21/23 at 9:46 am to TigerOnTheMountain
I don't know. These umpires are pro's. The do this every day and this is their living.
I can't say what really happened here.... or that Max was for sure cheating.
BUT - these umpires see it all. They're doing this everyday and they felt, as a crew, that this was a foreign substance. They wouldn't have tossed him from the game if they didn't really feel this way.
They know what's at stake.
I can't say what really happened here.... or that Max was for sure cheating.
BUT - these umpires see it all. They're doing this everyday and they felt, as a crew, that this was a foreign substance. They wouldn't have tossed him from the game if they didn't really feel this way.
They know what's at stake.
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