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re: Saints fans, which was worse, 2011 or 2018?

Posted on 1/21/19 at 3:59 pm to
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
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Posted on 1/21/19 at 3:59 pm to
What 2 calls?

I keep hearing about a face mask that looked like incidental contact.

What else?
Posted by theducks
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Posted on 1/21/19 at 3:59 pm to
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They were going to come into the Dome and beat us after having lost by 25 there earlier in the season?


Kinda like the Saints beating the Rams by double digits in the regular season then blowing a 13pt lead with a HoF QB in the championship game IN THE DOME?
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 1/21/19 at 3:59 pm to
this and it's not even close
Posted by Korin
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Posted on 1/21/19 at 3:59 pm to
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What makes it even worse is that the Rams acknowledge that they stole the game

McVay said there was nothing wrong.
Posted by msutiger
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Posted on 1/21/19 at 4:00 pm to
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Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 1/21/19 at 4:02 pm to
The Gurley initial TD was ruled down
The face mask is 15 yards now no matter what and a first. Instead it was not ruled and no new series of downs

The cooks missed face mask (ended up being a TD)
The missed delay of game that allowed a Saints TD.

I mean both teams got jobbed

But as I said Champ teams don’t blow leads at home and don’t have turnovers in their end to lose the game
This post was edited on 1/21/19 at 4:11 pm
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
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Posted on 1/21/19 at 4:02 pm to
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McVay said there was nothing wrong.
Oh really? Well, me and you both know he is full of shite

So does Todd Gurley and the man who committed the penalty, Nickell Courtney-Roby.
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
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Posted on 1/21/19 at 4:03 pm to
So now it’s 4 calls
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 1/21/19 at 4:04 pm to
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I mean both teams got jobbed



as is the case in almost every game.

the point that folks like you always seem to gloss over is that the timing of the "job" changes everything.
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 1/21/19 at 4:05 pm to
There are more but there were two that were bad and notice the parentheses and who is complaining

Just pointing out there were as egregious missed calls
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 1/21/19 at 4:06 pm to
and if you're going to list other missed calls, Brees had to roughing the passers that went uncalled (Suh on one and then on the INT)

You could even argue Thomas was hit on the INT

and there was an INT on that slot out route a bit before as well. The announcers mentioned that as well.
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 1/21/19 at 4:06 pm to
The face mask missed call doesn’t give the Saints the ball back with as much time and changes how Payton plays/calls the game

I guess though everything is in a vacuum sorry
Posted by Spelt it rong
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Posted on 1/21/19 at 4:07 pm to
2011 was hard, simply because we felt it was the best team ever assembled in our history.

2017 was awful because of the huge swing of momentum from the first half to the bullshite that occurred with 10 seconds remaining.

2018 was the worst of the three. Yes, Payton should have run the ball and forced the timeouts, but hindsight is 20/20, right? Well, looking back to those playcalls, I no longer have issue with them. The issue I see is blatant disregard for the rules by a player, then by the referees that are literally paid to enforce them. It doesn't matter what Sean called those first two plays, since we all know that Lewis was either gonna score, or gain the necessary yardage to actually run the clock out and set up a game-winning field goal. Instead, we ate 13 seconds of clock and only one of their timeouts. You know the rest.
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 1/21/19 at 4:07 pm to
So it wasn’t just one call it was the New Orleans Saints that lost the game

Won the toss
Throw a pick

Saints weren’t robbed as they had the ball and a chance to win the game after the supposed bad/missed/good call
This post was edited on 1/21/19 at 4:09 pm
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
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Posted on 1/21/19 at 4:08 pm to
A pick that should have been called back due to a roughing the passer call or not even existing if the refs were competent.
Posted by Eighteen
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Posted on 1/21/19 at 4:08 pm to
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But as I said Champ teams don’t blow leads at home and don’t have turnovers in their end to lose the game



This is such a lazy arse argument/point.

Yeah the Saints could've done more
Yeah the Rams made plays to win

Both of those can be true and have literally 0 to do with the fact that the officials completely blew a call that directly affected the outcome of the game.

It blows my mind that people default to this any time officials are criticized. And it's not like this was a close/controversial play in any way. It was completely blatant, completely obvious, and missed by two different officials who both had two different views/angles of it.

I assume most of it is trolling because it's fans of either the Rams or teams who don't like the Saints. Because if being a contrarian with no real point and you're not trolling then I'd wonder what you have going on in between your ears
This post was edited on 1/21/19 at 4:10 pm
Posted by LooseCannon22282
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Posted on 1/21/19 at 4:09 pm to
i would say what happened yesterday.

i'd love to hear what the ref or refs (cause two them had a clear view) thought they saw or didn't see on that play.

a six year old knows that pass interference.

it was a poorly officiated game on both sides and that's unacceptable for a championship game.

Josh Hill received a helmet-to-helmet hit and didn't return to the game (no flag). And all that talk before the year started was that the league was gonna crack down on those hits.

i would have rather the Saints lose by 30 than lose how we did.
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 1/21/19 at 4:10 pm to
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Saints weren’t robbed as they had the ball and a chance to win the game after the supposed bad/missed/good call


They were robbed and that was the reason OT fricking happened.
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 1/21/19 at 4:11 pm to
and the missed PI before that on the out route puts the saints in fg range

and pretty sure we had to settle for 3 on the missed roughing the passer when SUh shoved Brees to the ground a good second after he threw the ball

we can do this part all day. because lots of calls are missed in a game. The point in this one in particular is that it was so blatant, and the refs were right next to the play, and the flag effectively put the Saints in the SB.

there simply should be some sort of remedy to these egregious missed calls.
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 1/21/19 at 4:11 pm to
quote:

Won the toss
Throw a pick




yea, this is the other roughing the passer I mentioned.

If we are going to nitpick to prove a point.
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