re: Saban in July: If we lose two games, win the SEC and don&#39;t make the playoff, I understand

Posted by lsupride87

Member since Dec 2007

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Posted on 12/4/17 at 10:52 am to lsupride87

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Probably. As I go to many of their big games like this.

I went to the FSU game this year, so I'm having second thoughts on going to NOLA again(I was there last time y'all beat Alabama).

But my mom asked me if I'd go if she could convince my dad to make the trip. So I'll probably be there.

I'm down. Bring lsupride.

Let me know if you come down, we can hang

This post was edited on 12/4/17 at 10:53 am

Posted by DisplacedBuckeye

Member since Dec 2013

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Posted on 12/4/17 at 10:57 am to dukke v

You're a weird dude, Peej.

Posted by dukke v

PLUTO

Member since Jul 2006

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Posted on 12/4/17 at 10:59 am to DisplacedBuckeye

You crying about not getting your way and all this is unfair shite is what's weird......

Your team did not deserve to be in... FACT.... get over it and move on... all your crying and bitching isn't gonna change anything.....

Posted by DisplacedBuckeye

Member since Dec 2013

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Posted on 12/4/17 at 11:00 am to dukke v

Well, that's not happening. I've never once said that Ohio State is one of the top four.

You ever finish that research up, you little liar?

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Posted by dukke v

PLUTO

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Posted on 12/4/17 at 11:03 am to DisplacedBuckeye

you have said if OSU wins they are in..... and yes you even said it after the MSU game..... sorry you are not man enough that you are wrong and your shitty way way overrated team did not get in.......

Posted by TH03

Mogadishu

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Posted on 12/4/17 at 11:03 am to DisplacedBuckeye

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Well, that's not happening. I've never once said that Ohio State is one of the top four.

You ever finish that research up, you little liar?

23.5 hour melt.

Posted by ReauxlTide222

St. Petersburg

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Posted on 12/4/17 at 11:04 am to lsupride87

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Let me know if you come down, we can hang

My dream is finally coming true

Posted by DisplacedBuckeye

Member since Dec 2013

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Posted on 12/4/17 at 11:04 am to dukke v

That isn't the claim you made, Peej.

You were wrong, or you're a liar. I don't care which is true.

Posted by dukke v

PLUTO

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Posted on 12/4/17 at 11:05 am to DisplacedBuckeye

You are the liar.... you are crawfishing the best you can because I have owned you in every thread you enter trying to slurp on Urbana package.....

Posted by DisplacedBuckeye

Member since Dec 2013

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Posted on 12/4/17 at 11:08 am to dukke v

Then link it, Peej.

You made a big deal about "doing research," and here you are, with nothing.

Posted by moneyg

Member since Jun 2006

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Posted on 12/4/17 at 1:01 pm to DisplacedBuckeye

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The committee showed us that it matters more, regardless of the resumes.

Ohio State had a conference championship, a better strength of schedule, and three wins better than Alabama's win over LSU.

You are confused because you seem to be only able to comprehend one variable to the equation.

Wins matter. Losses matter. Some wins are more important than some losses. Other losses are more important than some wins. I'll give you examples if you need them.

The bottom line is that, while Ohio State had some decent wins, none of them were elite wins. And, more importantly, they had a big loss to a playoff team, and as disastrous, blowout, embarrassing loss to a Iowa.

Alabama's wins weren't as good as Ohio State's, but they suffered no bad losses.

When you consider everything, Alabama is clearly the right choice. And, I hate Alabama. I tried to explain this to you last week, but you smugly replied that Ohio State was going to get in.

You were wrong.

Posted by moneyg

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Posted on 12/4/17 at 1:03 pm to lsupride87

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They arent

Team a

BEST WINS

#6, #9, #16

team b

BEST WIN

#17

...another person who believes resume is only based on wins. It's not. It's based on wins AND losses.

Posted by shel311

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Member since Aug 2004

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Posted on 12/4/17 at 1:05 pm to lsupride87

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They arent

Team a

BEST WINS

#6, #9, #16

team b

BEST WIN

#17

Their resumes encompass 13 and 12 games respectively, not 3 and 1 games you mentioned.

I side with Bama but the resumes are absolutely close. Ohio St has better wins. Bama has less losses and not a really bad, 31 point loss to a 7-5 team on their resume which offsets the strength of teams beaten in some way that makes it close and in the same ballpark.

This post was edited on 12/4/17 at 1:06 pm

Posted by DisplacedBuckeye

Member since Dec 2013

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Posted on 12/4/17 at 1:24 pm to moneyg

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You are confused because you seem to be only able to comprehend one variable to the equation.

Oh. Well, except this:

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The committee showed us that it matters more, regardless of the resumes.

Glad that's cleared up.

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Ohio State had some decent wins

They had three wins that were better than Bama's best.

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I tried to explain this to you last week, but you smugly replied that Ohio State was going to get in.

I replied with what Kirby Hocutt said, and that Ohio State was likely in with a win.

Not my problem that Hocutt is inconsistent.

Posted by moneyg

Member since Jun 2006

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Posted on 12/4/17 at 4:29 pm to DisplacedBuckeye

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They had three wins that were better than Bama's best.

...and a loss that outweighed the difference in those wins.

Again, you don't seem to be able to comprehend that losses carry some weight was well. And, a loss to a bad team carries a lot of weight. And, getting blown out to a bad team carries so much weight that OSU never had a real chance.

No matter how much it bothers you to admit it, it doesn't change the fact that you were wrong.

Posted by DisplacedBuckeye

Member since Dec 2013

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Posted on 12/4/17 at 4:37 pm to moneyg

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...and a loss that outweighed the difference in those wins.

*Two losses.

Ohio State is easily in with a win over Oklahoma.

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Again, you don't seem to be able to comprehend that losses carry some weight was well. And, a loss to a bad team carries a lot of weight. And, getting blown out to a bad team carries so much weight that OSU never had a real chance.

I've said since the Iowa loss that it will be a problem. It doesn't matter if you ignore that.

Saban went on TV immediately after Ohio State beat Wisconsin to beg the committee to put Bama in over a two-loss team that gave up 55 to Iowa. The committee still took all night and late into them next morning to decide.

Yeah, no real chance...

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No matter how much it bothers you to admit it, it doesn't change the fact that you were wrong.

If the committee stays consistent, I'm correct. Hocutt is done in February. That'll be a good day for the sport.

Posted by moneyg

Member since Jun 2006

56679 posts

Posted on 12/4/17 at 5:13 pm to DisplacedBuckeye

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If the committee stays consistent, I'm correct

There is no scenario were your inaccurate prediction can be correct.

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Ohio State is easily in with a win over Oklahoma.

This is an opinion of yours that I disagree with. Ohio State would have had a marginally better resume of wins, but Ohio State would still have that albatross of a loss. Plus, Oklahoma stomped Ohio State at Ohio State.

Oklahoma should have gone in over Ohio State. I think the committee would have seen it that way.

Posted by KosmoCramer

Member since Dec 2007

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Posted on 12/4/17 at 5:22 pm to KosmoCramer

"But if it goes based on strength of schedule and how many good teams you beat, then that is the best way to pick the teams to be in the playoff."

How is this not Saban saying Ohio State should be in?

I don't care. Just hypocritical of him to change his tune.