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re: Ryan Howard struck out twice tonight in 4 at bats
Posted on 7/13/08 at 9:29 pm to LSUsmartass
Posted on 7/13/08 at 9:29 pm to LSUsmartass
They are both great players. A- rod is better, but Jeter is still great.
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Posted on 7/13/08 at 9:29 pm to D011ahbi11
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and also has had a better fielding percentage every year.
A-Rod had to switch positions cause Jeter wouldn't budge from his spot, even though A-Rod was clearly the better defensive S.S
Posted on 7/13/08 at 9:30 pm to D011ahbi11
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They are both great players. A- rod is better, but Jeter is still great.
How did this turn into an ARod vs Jeter debate?
Posted on 7/13/08 at 9:31 pm to LSUsmartass
When someone called Jeter overrated which I find completely false.
Posted on 7/13/08 at 9:31 pm to LSUsmartass
the allure of a 10+ page thread. It always mutates into something that doesn't even resemble the thread intent
Posted on 7/13/08 at 9:32 pm to LfcSU3520
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both of these stats are completely inconsequential to this argument
How? He said Jeter is "overrated" because people debate who means more to the team and he thinks that alone makes him "overrated".
Posted on 7/13/08 at 9:33 pm to LSUsmartass
My fault. I called Jeter overrated because of the praise he receives for being a clutch player. I apologized in advance. I will not chase the argument any further and neither should anyone else.
It was a point about how "clutch hitter" is often used as a way to prop up player's credentials. If a guy isn't as good as a hitter, you can always say, "Yeah, but he's much better in the clutch."
It was a point about how "clutch hitter" is often used as a way to prop up player's credentials. If a guy isn't as good as a hitter, you can always say, "Yeah, but he's much better in the clutch."
Posted on 7/13/08 at 9:34 pm to LfcSU3520
Jeter has always been a great hitter for a shortstop (his 1999 season was crazy) but as long as people continue to think that he is even a good defensive SS (let alone a gold glover) he will be somewhat overrated.
Posted on 7/13/08 at 9:34 pm to rmc
How over the course of their careers does Jeter have a better average than A-Rod, but is not better in any part of hitting?
Posted on 7/13/08 at 9:35 pm to D011ahbi11
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How? He said Jeter is "overrated" because people debate who means more to the team and he thinks that alone makes him "overrated".
i meant to your comparison between jeter and a rod
Posted on 7/13/08 at 9:36 pm to D011ahbi11
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How over the course of their careers does Jeter have a better average than A-Rod
you really need to do a lot of research into baseball statistics before you join an argument like this.
Posted on 7/13/08 at 9:38 pm to D011ahbi11
I know A-rod is better than Jeter, but you guys are acting like Jeter sucks.
Posted on 7/13/08 at 9:38 pm to D011ahbi11
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How over the course of their careers does Jeter have a better average than A-Rod, but is not better in any part of hitting?
Posted on 7/13/08 at 9:39 pm to D011ahbi11
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but you guys are acting like Jeter sucks.
no, we are acting like A-Rod is a much better hitter
Posted on 7/13/08 at 9:39 pm to D011ahbi11
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but you guys are acting like Jeter sucks.
nobody said that. You said Jeter was better because he has a higher avg. which is wrong.
Posted on 7/13/08 at 9:39 pm to D011ahbi11
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I know A-rod is better than Jeter, but you guys are acting like Jeter sucks.
No, we don't have to think he sucks in order to think of him as overrated
Posted on 7/13/08 at 9:39 pm to LfcSU3520
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You said Jeter was better because he has a higher avg. which is wrong.
I've already said A-Rod was better.
Posted on 7/13/08 at 9:41 pm to D011ahbi11
I don't know what kind of free time you have but if you can you should read some of Bill James' work. His or any other counterintuitive writing will open your eyes to the fallacies of most accepted baseball stats. BA is of course one of them.
Posted on 7/13/08 at 9:41 pm to LSUsmartass
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No, we don't have to think he sucks in order to think of him as overrated
Ok, serious question where would you rate him amongst current Shortstops?
Posted on 7/13/08 at 9:43 pm to D011ahbi11
11th, maybe 10th
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