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re: Ryan Howard struck out twice tonight in 4 at bats

Posted on 7/13/08 at 8:18 pm to
Posted by TigerPhan27
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Posted on 7/13/08 at 8:18 pm to
Ryne Sandberg had a 800 ops in 16 seasons

Ozzie Timmons batted like 400 times.

Ryne Sandberg>Ozzie Timmons as a hitter
Posted by LfcSU3520
Arizona
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 7/13/08 at 8:19 pm to
quote:

McCarthy wouldnt have cared if Ozzie Timmons is up in the 9th with runners on or if it was Ryne Sandberg.


yes I would. Sandberg was a better hitter I'm guessing? has nothing to do with 'clutchiness'.

As for your earlier question, I played first and pitched in HS.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
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Posted on 7/13/08 at 8:19 pm to
no but its random
Posted by LfcSU3520
Arizona
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24474 posts
Posted on 7/13/08 at 8:21 pm to
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no but its random


SFP? is this you?

You're fighting him on semantics. It's random when between to similar hitters.

Not when it's a hall of famer vs. some random
Posted by TigerPhan27
edgy racial f'n pervert.
Member since Apr 2008
15693 posts
Posted on 7/13/08 at 8:22 pm to
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Im not talking about stats, im talking about opinions. You claim your argument is always better because of this special research that you do.


you said I stole these clutch stats from nate silver. I said I referenced a book with the stats in them. That's not a opinion, its a stat.

quote:

Yet every time an argument comes up, your view is pretty underwhelming and filled with more sarcasm than facts or valid points


Lets ask the Major League baseball player who's made the better argument. Mine was pretty damn solid based on shite tons of reading about this shite. Your can be done by flipping through Topps baseball cards

quote:

then can form my own opinion, both by watching and by the numbers. I dont ripoff some no name guys research, whose opinion is no better than mine. Just because it is published doesnt mean it is the gospel


these "no names" actually use stats, you know the shite you can see. You are using moxy and the turn it on factor. Again who has the solid backing?
Posted by LSUsmartass
Scompton
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 7/13/08 at 8:22 pm to
quote:

It's random when between to similar hitters.

AHHHHH, I GOT YOU, YOU frickER
Posted by TigerPhan27
edgy racial f'n pervert.
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Posted on 7/13/08 at 8:23 pm to
quote:

SFP? is this you?

oh it's classic SFP once he's lost mode.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 7/13/08 at 8:23 pm to
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As for your earlier question, I played first and pitched in HS.


and you didnt feel different in a 1st inning AB compared to a late inning AB with more on the line?

Posted by TigerPhan27
edgy racial f'n pervert.
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 7/13/08 at 8:23 pm to
so what if he's clutch he won't shite on himself or something?
Posted by LfcSU3520
Arizona
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Posted on 7/13/08 at 8:25 pm to
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and you didnt feel different in a 1st inning AB compared to a late inning AB with more on the line?


i knew this is where you were going with this, and I could feel the difference.

However it doesn't mean my stats changed (i don't know if they did)...and that over the course of 10 seasons of hitting, the numbers in those two situations would be very similar.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 7/13/08 at 8:25 pm to
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oh it's classic SFP once he's lost mode.





a lot of what you said is either A)stating the obvious(like good hitters drive in runs) or B)contradictory


everything ive said has made sense. Far from SFP. If I were wrong, i would admit it. trust me
Posted by TigerPhan27
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Posted on 7/13/08 at 8:26 pm to
quote:

A)stating the obvious


so you are disagreeing with the obvious?
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
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Posted on 7/13/08 at 8:26 pm to
quote:

i knew this is where you were going with this, and I could feel the difference.


That's all i wanted to know
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 7/13/08 at 8:27 pm to





Howard had another strikeout today
Posted by TigerPhan27
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Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 7/13/08 at 8:27 pm to
it wouldn't matter if it were babe ruth or that little midget kid that batted once right? totally random

lawlz lol rotflmao I'm LE lawlz
Posted by LSUsmartass
Scompton
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 7/13/08 at 8:28 pm to
quote:

However it doesn't mean my stats changed (i don't know if they did)...and that over the course of 10 seasons of hitting, the numbers in those two situations would be very similar.

So we can do away with slotted closers and just use whoever
Posted by someoldhussy
Candyland
Member since Jun 2007
2439 posts
Posted on 7/13/08 at 8:28 pm to
Now you're changing from batting with runners on to bottom of the 9th stuff. David Ortiz hit .306 from 2005-2007. In close and late situations? .308. No difference.
Posted by TigerPhan27
edgy racial f'n pervert.
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 7/13/08 at 8:28 pm to
maybe one day pick a book about stats. it may open your mind up to other things besides what the 1989 fleer set tought us. trust me you'll like the game more
Posted by TigerPhan27
edgy racial f'n pervert.
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 7/13/08 at 8:29 pm to
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So we can do away with slotted closers and just use whoever


actually.... naw maybe another day we'll debate "closers"
Posted by TigerPhan27
edgy racial f'n pervert.
Member since Apr 2008
15693 posts
Posted on 7/13/08 at 8:30 pm to
dude he hit .002 higher. Clutch Mccluthetson
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