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re: Ryan Day: “There’s twelve men on the field!!!” Dan Lanning: “I know"
Posted on 10/14/24 at 7:03 am to BamaDude06
Posted on 10/14/24 at 7:03 am to BamaDude06
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This game drew the ire of Penn State head coach Joe Paterno
Glad to see JoePa had his priorities in line
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Posted on 10/14/24 at 7:07 am to tress4pres
Why does it have to be fixed? It’s a penalty but the other team understands and accepts the punishment. It happens more than people realize.
No different than delay of game on a punt to back up 5 yards or running out of end zone for a safety to run clock down. Intentional grabbing a wr when beat to prevent a TD. Hell, spiking the ball to stop the clock is a comparable sitution. No penalty involved but you’re taking advantage of the rules by incurring a negative play bc the outcome is favorable to current scenario .
No different than delay of game on a punt to back up 5 yards or running out of end zone for a safety to run clock down. Intentional grabbing a wr when beat to prevent a TD. Hell, spiking the ball to stop the clock is a comparable sitution. No penalty involved but you’re taking advantage of the rules by incurring a negative play bc the outcome is favorable to current scenario .
Posted on 10/14/24 at 7:21 am to kciDAtaE
If the refs see the 12 men before the snap, do they blow the play dead? I was always confused about this one. It seems sometimes they let the play go and other times they blow it dead before the snap (2019 Bama at Auburn ending).
Posted on 10/14/24 at 7:59 am to Bestbank Tiger
If the bills would have done this against KC with 12 seconds left....
Posted on 10/14/24 at 8:00 am to Tiger Ryno
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If the bills would have done this against KC with 12 seconds left....
NFL changed the rule to not allow for this to happen after Coughlin did it multiple times in the second pats / giants SB
Posted on 10/14/24 at 8:02 am to lsusa
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Am i misremembering, or did there used to be separate penalties for having too many men on the field (ie guy trying to run off late) and illegal participation (12 actually playing)?
Tennessee was called for Illegal Participation against LSU during the 2010 debacle.
Posted on 10/14/24 at 8:51 am to tress4pres
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How does an offense counteract this on the fly? Not sure there’s an answer other than committing a false start and having offsetting penalties.
in the short term I think you treat it as offsides…your QB has to know it/be signaled/told and you get a free play for a risky throw down the field into coverage or to the end zone to get a TD or PI with no risk of an interception
This post was edited on 10/14/24 at 11:44 am
Posted on 10/14/24 at 8:54 am to Eighteen
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in the short term I think you treat it as offsides…your QB has to see it and take a risky throw down the field into coverage or to the end zone to get a TD or PI with no risk of an interception
Is it a free play in college?
Posted on 10/14/24 at 9:04 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Ive always said you should just tackle every receiver when minimal time left. 5 yard penalty worth the 5-10 seconds lost
This post was edited on 10/14/24 at 9:05 am
Posted on 10/14/24 at 9:24 am to lsusa
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Am i misremembering, or did there used to be separate penalties for having too many men on the field (ie guy trying to run off late) and illegal participation (12 actually playing)?
Wasn’t the former a 5-yard and the latter 15?
Current rule in high school under federation rules.
Posted on 10/14/24 at 11:16 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
This is going to have to be changed. What’s keeping him from putting 22 guys on the field.
Posted on 10/14/24 at 11:42 am to The Eric
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What’s keeping him from putting 22 guys on the field.
15 yard penalty that puts osu in field goal range.
Posted on 10/14/24 at 11:52 am to tress4pres
quote:Either spike the ball and take the penalty with only 1 second running off….or take a deep shot with the free play
How does an offense counteract this on the fly? Not sure there’s an answer other than committing a false start and having offsetting penalties.
Posted on 10/14/24 at 11:53 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Honest question here..... How can the offense counter this in any way?
Posted on 10/14/24 at 11:59 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Lanning was playing chess while day was playing with his Leggo set
Posted on 10/14/24 at 12:16 pm to Double Oh
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Lanning was playing chess while day was playing with his Leggo set
And as pointed out by a buckeyes podcast, Chip Kelly is calling plays, so he has no excuses to not know the rules or not being able to manage the situation since he isn’t exactly completely involved in the offense.
Posted on 10/14/24 at 12:22 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Interesting how this board is jerking off at this as brilliant coaching b/c Lanning did it to Day but had it been Kiffin doing it to beat Kelly and LSU…
Posted on 10/14/24 at 2:44 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
They should make it so that if you accept the penalty the time is put back on the clock.
In other words the time for the play should only come off of the clock if the play is accepted.
In other words the time for the play should only come off of the clock if the play is accepted.
Posted on 10/14/24 at 2:54 pm to Tiger Prawn
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Either spike the ball and take the penalty with only 1 second running off….or take a deep shot with the free play
yep
Posted on 10/14/24 at 4:36 pm to RemouladeSawce
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13 is plausible error if you’re Derek Dooley
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