re: Russell Wilson announces his retirement

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Yes, went from title contenders to just making the playoffs. Using those players leaving is making my point, once he was the engine they were no longer contenders

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They had a good two year run. Won a superbowl bowl and made it to another but they weren’t some dynasty. And the same players that people want to give all the credit to are still there for several more years after 2014.

The point is in the several years before they left and in the several years after they left the team had essentially the same level of success.

No one is winning super bowls with just a good defense or just a good offense.

Lynch’s last full season for them was 2014. It’s a simple calculus, more Wilson equated to less winning. In the years where he attempted fewer than 500 passes they won at a 70% clip, won 3x as many playoff games, appeared in 2x as many playoff games, won a Super Bowl and an NFC title game. When he threw over 500 times they won 64% of their games, had a sub .500 playoff record and never made it past the divisional round.

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Lynch’s last full season for them was 2014. It’s a simple calculus, more Wilson equated to less winning. In the years where he attempted fewer than 500 passes they won at a 70% clip, won 3x as many playoff games, appeared in 2x as many playoff games, won a Super Bowl and an NFC title game. When he threw over 500 times they won 64% of their games, had a sub .500 playoff record and never made it past the divisional round.

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I don’t think it gets anymore retarded than boiling down team success to a single player

It’s almost like it’s hard to compete for a Super Bowl when your OL falls to mediocre, your running game is a shell of itself, and your defense becomes average

You don’t have an argument. Just delusional expectations of what a single player can do to elevate what quickly became an average team around him