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Runners in MS Gulf Coast Marathon don't qualify for Boston Marathon
Posted on 12/13/17 at 7:49 am
Posted on 12/13/17 at 7:49 am
The course was too short
quote:
That marathon some ran Sunday across South Mississippi — it turns out it wasn’t exactly a marathon.
Jonathan Dziuba, race director for the Mississippi Gulf Coast Marathon, sent out an email to runners who thought they ran 26.2 miles in a time to qualify for the Boston Marathon in April 2018.
Because of a measurement mishap along Interstate 110, runners only completed 25.905 miles.
Dan Bourgeois, media relations representative for the Mississippi Gulf Coast Marathon, said runners can compete in the Louisiana Marathon on Jan. 18 to qualify for the Boston Marathon free of charge. Runners also can opt to participate in next year’s Mississippi Gulf Coast Marathon at no cost.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 7:53 am to tss22h8
Only in Mississippi.
Gotta change those stickers to 25.9
Gotta change those stickers to 25.9
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:03 am to castorinho
except those are Louisiana people running it
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:19 am to mgdtiger
The race director is an LSU grad & big Tiger fan.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:20 am to LSU
quote:
The race director is an LSU grad & big Tiger fan.
found the problem.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:29 am to LSU
Does the director individually map and measure distance? Honest question, obviously this falls on him either way.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:45 am to TexasTiger1185
I thought they used independent people to measure it if it is a qualifier race
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:51 am to SPEEDY
The race director usually hires someone, or does it themselves, and then the data from the meassurement is submitted to USA Track and Field. I would imagine in most cases, this happens months before a race though so this is a pretty unusual situation.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:55 am to tss22h8
Just imagining running 26.2 miles has me exhausted. I think I'll make a stop to Ronnie's Donuts on the way into work.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:58 am to SPEEDY
quote:He measured it correctly and marked it correctly, but he gave incorrect instructions the morning of the race to the person assigned to place the single turnaround on the whole course.
I thought they used independent people to measure it if it is a qualifier race
Posted on 12/13/17 at 9:07 am to tss22h8
Full email:
quote:
It is with a heavy heart and personal disappointment that I write these words to you today. Starting Sunday afternoon, we began getting complaints about the marathon course being short. That continued into Monday when people were able to post Strava and Garmin data for us to see. Initially, our Runner Support team was responding to the inquiries with our standard response to distance discrepancies related to satellite data. I realized then that we did not get a timing mat past the half marathon turnaround and assumed that many of the distance differences were due to runners accidentally turning around at the halfway mark instead of the full mark. I also spoke to the person who set the turnarounds and they performed that task exactly how they were instructed. In my mind, there was nothing more that could be done to look into this matter. Based on the number of complaints and responses I did go back to the original measurement notes taken and compar
ed those to the satellite images of the I-110 interstate. The course was indeed short and it was my failure in communication that lead to it being so.
Here is an explanation of what happened: I personally measured the course to be submitted for certification. We had access to Interstate I-110 for only a couple hours early one Sunday morning to do so. This required police escorts and for the interstate to be partially closed. There was not enough time to measure that portion of the course two times and then make a third trip to measure and mark the turnarounds. The next time we would have access to be on the interstate would be race morning. Due to that, I measured and set marks at every light pole and interstate truss sign along that portion of the interstate. (These are all approximately 260 feet apart on average.) Once the final distance of the course was measured and verified, I had made enough marks to be able to set the turnaround(s) race morning and knew which marks to measure from for those turnarounds. The marathon turnaround was meant to be set 105' north of the interstate truss that is just south of Percy St. That is the third interstate truss sign you pass when heading north from Hwy 90. I instructed the person measuring and setting the turnaround to go 105' north of the second interstate truss mark. It was my absent mindedness that lead to communicating to that person incorrect instructions. Because of the measurement notes and verification that the turnaround was marked exactly per my instructions, I know that the marathon course was 1,555' 1" short. That is approximately .295 miles. The half marathon was executed per certification and was correct.
I am deeply sorry for this series of events. I am sorry that I didn't recognize it earlier and that our responses have not been on point due to that. I always trust my staff and my people and they confirmed they did exactly as instructed. It wasn't until later that I realized my instructions were wrong. I have always taken a great deal of pride in the fact that runners can have faith in us to have a correct, safe and complete course no matter what. It's painful to let so many down in that regard. Unfortunately, BAA does not currently allow exceptions for people not running the complete marathon distance at a race even if it is the event producer's fault. For those runners who were able to make your BAA qualifying time, I am deeply saddened by my mistake especially for you.
Sincerely,
Jonathan Dziuba
Race Director
Mississippi Gulf Coast Marathon
This post was edited on 12/13/17 at 9:07 am
Posted on 12/13/17 at 9:21 am to ell_13
Someone get that man a snickers.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 9:22 am to tss22h8
I can't imagine the training it must take to qualify, the elation one must feel when they finish with a PR and punch their ticket to Boston, and the gut-wrenching feeling of reading that email and discovering that none of it counts.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 9:25 am to ell_13
Lucky for the sissies the half marathon was accurate.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 9:29 am to NawlinsTiger9
my heart breaks for the runners that trained their butts off to get a qualifying time for boston. this dude needs to step aside and let someone else take over.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 9:29 am to NawlinsTiger9
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I can't imagine the training it must take to qualify, the elation one must feel when they finish with a PR and punch their ticket to Boston, and the gut-wrenching feeling of reading that email and discovering that none of it counts.
i'd imagine that a runner with a watch was the first to know it to be honest. most of the serious runners are watching their garmins religiously throughout the run.
This post was edited on 12/13/17 at 9:30 am
Posted on 12/13/17 at 9:33 am to 3nOut
quote:They were, my wife included. Everyone noticed on their watches. Normally, you're about 0.2 longer rather than 0.2 short because no one runs the tangents perfectly.
i'd imagine that a runner with a watch was the first to know it to be honest. most of the serious runners are watching their garmins religiously throughout the run.
Luckily, this wasn't meant to be a PR/BQ race for her. We are running the Dopey challenge in Disney in a few weeks so this was mostly just to get in miles for training.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 9:50 am to tss22h8
Ouch. I feel bad for them. Seems like an honest mistake. I know this team puts a lot of time and effort into the races they put on and this has to be a major gut blow.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 10:02 am to tss22h8
See, this is exactly why I don’t get off the couch.
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