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re: Rockets over warriors in 7 games

Posted on 5/7/18 at 1:02 pm to
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
5524 posts
Posted on 5/7/18 at 1:02 pm to
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I don't think the Cleveland series is a good predicter of how GS will choose to defend Houston. Golden State hid Curry so aggressively because Cleveland was screening with LeBron and Curry has no chance in that mismatch when he gets switched onto him. So they incorporated "passing" Curry's man off to avoid that mismatch. That's a completely different scenario than what Houston provides.


A very well thought out response. I don't 100% agree but wouldn't be surprised if you were right.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 5/7/18 at 1:04 pm to
Nah.

Cc is a nice team.
Howsomever,
Winning 4 games in conf play one season does not confer all time status.

Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112846 posts
Posted on 5/7/18 at 1:05 pm to
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GS is actually WAY better on D without Curry.
They're a little better statistically, not way better.
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
27756 posts
Posted on 5/7/18 at 1:08 pm to
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Excuse me, b hasn’t said CC will beat the warriors even once.
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Boom, with all do respect, I excluded you from the conversation because you muck it up with the masses more than the other OG rockets fans. That exclusion is just meant because I know how the pleps work, they can misconstrued a quote and I know all your lovers have everything you posted bookmarke
quote:

"The mark of a regular season team is one that loses to lower seeded teams/teams who have won fewer games in the playoffs. That simply has not been the case for CC. They just don’t underperfourm their seeding. Like ever."

CC "Dont Underperfrom their seeding. Like ever" = will win vs GSW

Just wondering...Who is seeded higher GSW or the Rockets?
This post was edited on 5/7/18 at 1:09 pm
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
5524 posts
Posted on 5/7/18 at 1:09 pm to
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They're a little better statistically, not way better.


Maybe a tad over stated but with Curry out they are usually bigger and just switch more things. Makes playing D easier.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59906 posts
Posted on 5/7/18 at 1:13 pm to
Safe to say we make an exception for the GOAT squad who slept walk though the reg season. Use your noodle.
Posted by El Campo Tiger
El Campo, TX
Member since Mar 2015
10118 posts
Posted on 5/7/18 at 1:30 pm to
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klay is also lackluster in creating his own shot.


Remember Game 6 in the 2016 Western Conference Finals?

Klay definitely created his own shot in that one.
This post was edited on 5/7/18 at 1:30 pm
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64348 posts
Posted on 5/7/18 at 1:43 pm to
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Remember Game 6 in the 2016 Western Conference Finals?

Klay definitely created his own shot in that one.



So you're saying you could give klay Thompson the ball at the top of the key, clear out the lane and he'd be effective off the dribble one on one without any ball screens?
Posted by okietiger
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Member since Oct 2005
42463 posts
Posted on 5/7/18 at 1:45 pm to
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Remember Game 6 in the 2016 Western Conference Finals?

Klay definitely created his own shot in that one.


Y u do dis
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
5524 posts
Posted on 5/7/18 at 1:49 pm to
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So you're saying you could give klay Thompson the ball at the top of the key, clear out the lane and he'd be effective off the dribble one on one without any ball screens?


Lol no competent coach is trying to get an ISO at the top. Too easy to help on that. ISO's are usually at HP or on a wing area.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64348 posts
Posted on 5/7/18 at 2:04 pm to
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Lol no competent coach is trying to get an ISO at the top. Too easy to help on that. ISO's are usually at HP or on a wing area.



That's exactly what an iso is. Thompson is rarely in those situations because he's not a shot creator off the dribble.


Watch how Durant gets his buckets, they get him the ball and clear out.

Harden the same
Paul the same
LeBron the same


An iso is great for the best players in the league. Thompson is not an iso player, he feeds off curry, Durant and picks.
This post was edited on 5/7/18 at 2:05 pm
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
91419 posts
Posted on 5/7/18 at 2:24 pm to
They aren't going to iso Klay when there are 2 other guys better than him at it on the team.

Doesn't mean he can't do it.
Posted by El Campo Tiger
El Campo, TX
Member since Mar 2015
10118 posts
Posted on 5/7/18 at 3:11 pm to
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So you're saying you could give klay Thompson the ball at the top of the key, clear out the lane and he'd be effective off the dribble one on one without any ball screens?



No, I'm saying whether he had a hand in his face or not, he was draining threes and long twos.
Posted by El Campo Tiger
El Campo, TX
Member since Mar 2015
10118 posts
Posted on 5/7/18 at 3:13 pm to
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Y u do dis


I know, Okie.

I was pulling hard for OKC in that series as well. After the loss, I kicked my plastic trash can into a wall and it left a huge hole.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
28002 posts
Posted on 5/7/18 at 3:26 pm to
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Lol no competent coach is trying to get an ISO at the top. Too easy to help on that. ISO's are usually at HP or on a wing area.
Uhh... that's not true at all. Isolation plays are run up top out of the 1-4 low all the time.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64348 posts
Posted on 5/7/18 at 3:42 pm to
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They aren't going to iso Klay when there are 2 other guys better than him at it on the team.



I'm pretty sure only Durant is scoring well off iso plays right now with curry hobbled some.


quote:

Doesn't mean he can't do it.





He's just not a shot creator, he's probably the best catch and shoot player in the NBA today.


There's a reason he was able to score 60 points in 29 minutes on about 10 dribbles. Klay moves takes a pass and shoots. He's not a good ball handler, he does what he needs with his handles.
Posted by The Automater
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Member since Apr 2018
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Posted on 5/7/18 at 4:13 pm to
Team ball will beat Iso-ball...especially when the team guys are talented enough to play iso. I like the Rockets this year (in Hou), however, they have the great misfortune of having a great team while this GS team is still in its prime. If GS breaks up over salaries this off-season, the Rockets will finally have their chance.
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
5524 posts
Posted on 5/7/18 at 4:18 pm to
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Uhh... that's not true at all. Isolation plays are run up top out of the 1-4 low all the ti


I guess as a coach I don’t consider that an iso. In an ISO I’m trying to get my guy 1v1 in a situation where help is hard to get there. 1-4 low I’m trying to force help and makes play off of it. I guess you could call 1-4 ISO but I don’t personally see it that way.
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
27756 posts
Posted on 5/7/18 at 4:53 pm to
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Safe to say we make an exception for the GOAT squad who slept walk though the reg season. Use your noodle.

Ok, that makes sense. Although, I am posting a sign that says "Crawfish Time"...I'm not really implying that you are crawfishing.



Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59906 posts
Posted on 5/7/18 at 5:14 pm to
I see where youre coming from red, and don’t disagree.
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