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re: RG3 is so good!!! Skins Rams threa
Posted on 9/16/12 at 4:42 pm to FootballNostradamus
Posted on 9/16/12 at 4:42 pm to FootballNostradamus
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Comparing Vick's accuracy/decision-making, Vince's brain/accuracy, the wildcat's versatility/ability to be a base offense, and Tim FVCKING TEBOW to RGIII and the offense Washington is running should get you perma-banned.
at this point, how do you know it is far fetched?
it could be perfectly accurate.
another note is how bad Big 12 QBs have been coming into the league....and the overall lack of success of black QBs.
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Posted on 9/16/12 at 4:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
SFP its not a spread option. Its a package offense more akin to what Holgerson does than anything. 3-4 'live' run/pass options shortly after each snap.
I thought you were big on this "NFL needs to catch up to college offensive schemes" thing. I'm surprised to see you bashing this.
I thought you were big on this "NFL needs to catch up to college offensive schemes" thing. I'm surprised to see you bashing this.
Posted on 9/16/12 at 4:42 pm to UnluckyTiger
What defenses has he played against?
Oh the saints and rams? THEN HE IS A frickING BEAST!!!
Oh the saints and rams? THEN HE IS A frickING BEAST!!!
Posted on 9/16/12 at 4:43 pm to tigerNation09
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You were a redskins fan last week, bandwagoners
I was??????????? LINK?????????
Posted on 9/16/12 at 4:43 pm to bluebarracuda
Exactly, these defenses he's playing are terrible.
Posted on 9/16/12 at 4:44 pm to bluebarracuda
He's a rookie you dumb frick and he's lighting them up
Posted on 9/16/12 at 4:44 pm to FootballNostradamus
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Please show me the limitations of this offense.
the limitations of the spread option?
too much east/west running, and too many simple reads. also play action often takes away half the field
it also puts your QB in serious jeopardy of injury
it has never worked in the NFL over a sustained period of time
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Comparing Vick's accuracy/decision-making, Vince's brain/accuracy, the wildcat's versatility/ability to be a base offense, and Tim FVCKING TEBOW to RGIII and the offense Washington is running should get you perma-banned.
it's not about the QBs and their limitations. it's the offense
i expect RG3 to run this gimmick better than vick/vince/tebow, but he will still fail b/c the offense will fail
Posted on 9/16/12 at 4:44 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
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Yeah, Luck is the best player I have ever seen upon their entry in the NFL (I am young though).
A guy with 4 INTs in his first game is the best player you've ever seen enter the NFL?
Were you born 5 minutes before the start of their game? He was almost certainly the best rookie on the field in that game.
Posted on 9/16/12 at 4:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
Nice TO Mike 
Posted on 9/16/12 at 4:44 pm to FootballNostradamus
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Because he's white right?
RGIII's offense is plenty complicated enough.
Offense Puts More on RG3's Shoulders
the thread title alone proves that you have no point
"Shannahan uses RGIII's college offense...."
college offenses dont work in the NFL for a reason...He caught the Saints off guard and playing the RAms this week....Pump the brakes on that shite.
Posted on 9/16/12 at 4:45 pm to FootballNostradamus
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RGIII's offense is plenty complicated enough.
Offense Puts More on RG3's Shoulders
let's read this part of the article
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The truth is that these plays weren’t simple at all. Actually, they required more from Griffin as he was forced to decide whether to hand off the ball, keep it himself, or toss a quick pass to a receiver.
always is said with the spread option, and the SO always fails
Posted on 9/16/12 at 4:47 pm to Lester Earl
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at this point, how do you know it is far fetched?
Are you trolling? You actually think it's reasonable to compare RGIII's accuracy to Vick's or Vince's? His arm strength or throwing motion to Tebow's
If so then I'll just stop here, because it's not worth it.
Posted on 9/16/12 at 4:47 pm to Broseph Barksdale
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SFP its not a spread option.
they run tons of spread option
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I thought you were big on this "NFL needs to catch up to college offensive schemes" thing.
yeah and the spread option isn't one of them. it doesn't work and it puts your QB in too much danger
Posted on 9/16/12 at 4:47 pm to SlowFlowPro
When I see "spread option" I think Rich Rod. And this O is nothing like Rich Rod's.
WAY more vertical.
WAY more vertical.
Posted on 9/16/12 at 4:48 pm to FootballNostradamus
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A guy with 4 INTs in his first game is the best player you've ever seen enter the NFL? Were you born 5 minutes before the start of their game? He was almost certainly the best rookie on the field in that game.
I am not saying best debut, bud. Cause that would go to Cam, RG3, or maybe some other dude.
It is more along the lines of if you could go and lump together the last 10 years of rookies and put them into one draft, then I would take Luck first.
Posted on 9/16/12 at 4:50 pm to Broseph Barksdale
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And this O is nothing like Rich Rod's.
it's a lot more like greg davis's at UT with vince
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WAY more vertical.
it's not really vertical except on a PA here or there. i think the big PA today had 1 WR running a real route
RG3 has plenty of single read plays where he just tucks it if that read isn't there. this has never been sustainable in the modern NFL
Posted on 9/16/12 at 4:51 pm to FootballNostradamus
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Are you trolling? You actually think it's reasonable to compare RGIII's accuracy to Vick's or Vince's? His arm strength or throwing motion to Tebow's
you are stupid. We are not talking about their physical attributes. More along the lines of the offenses they are playing in. Their overall skillet and talent is secondary.
Posted on 9/16/12 at 4:52 pm to Lester Earl
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the thread title alone proves that you have no point
"Shannahan uses RGIII's college offense...."
Right. Where did people start going to the 4-5 wide predominant shotgun attack? Where did people start packaging run/pass options?
That offense that Green Bay and New Orleans won Super Bowls started in college.
Sure you can't run Urban's spread attack that has Tebow pounding the ball 20 times a game, but anyone saying you can't mesh college tactics with an NFL system is just a traditionalist bigot.
Posted on 9/16/12 at 4:52 pm to SlowFlowPro
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The Washington Examiner reported that Shanahan actually thinks play-action where Griffin not only fakes an inside run but can also pull the ball might be better than traditional under-center play-action so common in the NFL because of the increased delay it gives to linebackers. "Not a little bit more," he said. "A lot more."
that is the definition of the spread option
Posted on 9/16/12 at 4:53 pm to FootballNostradamus
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That offense that Green Bay and New Orleans won Super Bowls started in college.
ok
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