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re: RG3 is so good!!! Skins Rams threa

Posted on 9/16/12 at 5:32 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/16/12 at 5:32 pm to
and the skins just run a traditional speed option out of the pistol
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 9/16/12 at 5:34 pm to
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Peyton WAS NOT reading anyone on stretch plays. He was getting on his horse to get that ball in Edge's stomach as soon as possible so he had as much time to determine where to make his cut. He had his damn back turned away from the defense.



This is a STUPID post.
Posted by FootballNostradamus
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Posted on 9/16/12 at 5:34 pm to
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This is a STUPID post.


Elaborate.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 9/16/12 at 5:36 pm to
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Elaborate.


NO need. Its STUPID. Manning was NEVER doing that. The MASTER at running an offense from the LOS. You are losing here. Leave while you can.
Posted by Broseph Barksdale
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Posted on 9/16/12 at 5:37 pm to
Ignoring the Skins, I'm interested in your thoughts on how the Holgerson version of the Air Raid translates to the NFL.

I think it'd work. There are housekeeping things (move the QB under center, probably move one or both fullbacks to the LOS from the diamond), but I think the concepts would absolutely work. It would be an interesting experiment.
Posted by FootballNostradamus
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Posted on 9/16/12 at 5:38 pm to
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NO need. Its STUPID. Manning was NEVER doing that. The MASTER at running an offense from the LOS. You are losing here. Leave while you can.


Thanks for making my point for me. We were talking about post-snap not pre-snap reads.

You have no clue what we were talking about and your inability to comprehend even the simplest of reasoning is astounding.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/16/12 at 5:39 pm to
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I'm interested in your thoughts on how the Holgerson version of the Air Raid translates to the NFL.

the spread has been stolen from college for a solid 5 years or so now, including the progeny of mike leach

in many ways that's what the pack/saints/patriots run
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 9/16/12 at 5:41 pm to
Redskins need to give Morris the ball and reward him
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 9/16/12 at 5:41 pm to
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You have no clue what we were talking about and your inability to comprehend even the simplest of reasoning is astounding.



REALLY???????? I know 10 times more about football than you do. So Go sit in the corner an ACT like YOU are important.
Posted by FootballNostradamus
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Posted on 9/16/12 at 5:41 pm to
quote:

Ignoring the Skins, I'm interested in your thoughts on how the Holgerson version of the Air Raid translates to the NFL.

I think it'd work. There are housekeeping things (move the QB under center, probably move one or both fullbacks to the LOS from the diamond), but I think the concepts would absolutely work. It would be an interesting experiment.


Holgorsen is an offensive genius. His stick-draw concept is literally about as ground-breaking of a play as we've seen in a decade.

I would love to watch him in the NFL. I can't wait to see him and Gary Patterson bump heads in the future.
Posted by FootballNostradamus
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Posted on 9/16/12 at 5:43 pm to
SFP,

You still haven't mentioned how Peyton was packing post-snap run/pass options.
Posted by UnluckyTiger
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Posted on 9/16/12 at 5:44 pm to
Bradford has been incredible today.
Posted by FootballNostradamus
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Posted on 9/16/12 at 5:46 pm to
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the spread has been stolen from college for a solid 5 years or so now, including the progeny of mike leach

in many ways that's what the pack/saints/patriots run


This is 100% correct.
Posted by FootballNostradamus
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Posted on 9/16/12 at 5:46 pm to
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Bradford has been incredible today.


If 100% healthy and with equal weapons I think Bradford is as good a prospect as Luck. His accuracy is stunning.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/16/12 at 5:46 pm to
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You still haven't mentioned how Peyton was packing post-snap run/pass options.


he was making the same reads of the LBs and DL that griffin is making, but without the concern of the backside

how it was explained to me, that drag run by the TE coming against the stretch strong side was typically not a called play action

if peyton saw the LBs overpursuing the RBs, he'd cock back and throw a quick strike to the TE who was wide open in the flat
Posted by FootballNostradamus
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Posted on 9/16/12 at 5:51 pm to
quote:

he was making the same reads of the LBs and DL that griffin is making, but without the concern of the backside

how it was explained to me, that drag run by the TE coming against the stretch strong side was typically not a called play action

if peyton saw the LBs overpursuing the RBs, he'd cock back and throw a quick strike to the TE who was wide open in the flat



Not Possible

Please watch any play from this video. It's their traditional stretch plays. Peyton has his back turned to the defense after the snap.

He's 100% not reading anyone and from the point of the snap is it a designated run 100%.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/16/12 at 5:59 pm to
zone read option keeper for the 1st
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/16/12 at 6:00 pm to
QB draw
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 9/16/12 at 6:00 pm to
lol the way he keeps running, he'll be hurt soon.


all because they are trying to sneak in a few wins before other teams catch on. They will regret it
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/16/12 at 6:01 pm to
Play action (Reverse) gets blown up. run to the left (out of bounds for his sake)
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