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re: Redskins owner Dan Snyder "We will never change the name of the team"

Posted on 5/10/13 at 9:51 am to
Posted by fightingtiger2335
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Posted on 5/10/13 at 9:51 am to
One na said his opinion on it and you countered with ncai like "see your rulers said your opinion doesn't count. Ncai speaks for all your kind"
They don't need you speaking for them
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 5/10/13 at 9:53 am to
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One na said his opinion on it and you countered with ncai like "see your rulers said your opinion doesn't count. Ncai speaks for all your kind"



Lovely, because that is EXACTLY what I said.

Of course he is entitled to his opinion, and fine if the name doesn't offend him. But the name is OBVIOUSLY offensive to other people. Of course, if the name is offensive, they should just get over it. Right? Hypocritical much?
Posted by fightingtiger2335
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Posted on 5/10/13 at 9:55 am to
Find where I said anything about getting over it.

But you know better than the guy who spoke from na pov. Yoy are smarter and he should just let you take care of his problems.
Posted by Bear Is Dead
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Posted on 5/10/13 at 9:55 am to
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Get a fricking life, bro. It's the name of a sports team

kige
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 5/10/13 at 9:56 am to
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But you know better than the guy who spoke from na pov. Yoy are smarter and he should just let you take care of his problems.



This is a good way to get out of a discussion you are incapable of contributing to. Later.
Posted by TJG210
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Posted on 5/10/13 at 9:57 am to
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But the name is OBVIOUSLY offensive to other people. Of course, if the name is offensive, they should just get over it. Right? Hypocritical much?


Where does this stupidity stop? You can't cater every single individual and their need for attention.

Atheists probably are offended by the Saints, ancestors of folks who's villages were pillaged by pirates and vikings are offended there, and people who have eaten by bears are offended by that name.
Posted by fightingtiger2335
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Posted on 5/10/13 at 9:58 am to
What discussion? How much can we debate that you told him he was wrong by bringing up the ncia?
You got caught trying to be hero babysitter for the poor dumb injuns who can't think for themselves.
Keep pretending you're a hero though.


Posted by The Sad Banana
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Posted on 5/10/13 at 10:01 am to
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Where does this stupidity stop? You can't cater every single individual and their need for attention.

Atheists probably are offended by the Saints, ancestors of folks who's villages were pillaged by pirates and vikings are offended there, and people who have eaten by bears are offended by that name.
THIS
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 5/10/13 at 10:05 am to
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What discussion? How much can we debate that you told him he was wrong by bringing up the ncia?
You got caught trying to be hero babysitter for the poor dumb injuns who can't think for themselves.


You are a moron.

I never said he was wrong. The NCAI feels differently.

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You got caught trying to be hero babysitter for the poor dumb injuns who can't think for themselves.



Excuse me? I said this? I've never said this, and I will never say this. Great troll job, though.

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Keep pretending you're a hero though.



There are two sides of an issue. I am on one side. There are people on another side. You are implying that one side is being paternalistic and patronizing, and are therefore in the wrong? Why don't you give reasons for how YOU feel. It might be easier than you being wrong all the time about what other people feel. Dumbass.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 5/10/13 at 10:09 am to
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Where does this stupidity stop? You can't cater every single individual and their need for attention.

Atheists probably are offended by the Saints, ancestors of folks who's villages were pillaged by pirates and vikings are offended there, and people who have eaten by bears are offended by that name.


Posted by fightingtiger2335
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Posted on 5/10/13 at 10:10 am to
Both sides can be right. Its why its not a easy choice and its debated. I haven't said you were wrong. I just pointed out what you were doing
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 5/10/13 at 10:14 am to
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I haven't said you were wrong. I just pointed out what you were doing



Again, you are an idiot. You made an assumption as to what I was doing, and you are clearly wrong.

I stated a fact, not an opinion. The NCAI feels differently than the poster who said he wasn't offended by it.

You assumed I was telling him to follow the NCAI, and only an idiot would make that assumption.

This post was edited on 5/10/13 at 10:15 am
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 5/10/13 at 10:14 am to
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Is it really racist?
yes.

It is a derogatory term.

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How is it any different than a Brave? Or a Bruin? Or a Raider? Or a Viking?
Not derogatory terms.

I have stated before. I think they should change the name, because it is the right thing to do, but I don't think any other interest should be allowed to "make" them.
Posted by T
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Posted on 5/10/13 at 10:23 am to
Personally i hate the stereotype that all irish people fight and the bigoted teams that make millions off of this ignorant description of irish people.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 5/10/13 at 10:24 am to
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Personally i hate the stereotype that all irish people fight and the bigoted teams that make millions off of this ignorant description of irish people.



An LSU fan who hates ND. Shocking.
Posted by The Sad Banana
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Posted on 5/10/13 at 10:27 am to
I don't think a Redskin is overly derogatory. There are plenty of other things in this world we should be getting our panties in wads about. Not the Washington Redskins.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 5/10/13 at 10:32 am to
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I don't think a Redskin is overly derogatory
Of course not as much now. We, as a nation, killed almost all of them.

Were they a louder economic voice, the name would have been changed 50 years ago.

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There are plenty of other things in this world we should be getting our panties in wads about. Not the Washington Redskins.
I didn't start the thread.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 5/10/13 at 10:32 am to
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I don't think a Redskin is overly derogatory.


And this raises an excellent point. There are names out there that do, in some way, stereotype a particular race/ethnic group. The poster above comically referred to the "Fighting Irish". It is a great point.

However, I think you have to go beyond the name. What was the oppression? How long did it last? These factors are important for the analysis.

Personally, I find the name "Redskins" to be overly derogatory and incredibly inappropriate.

Great discussion, AJF. It's better than you just bitching about "Obama's America".
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Posted on 5/10/13 at 10:39 am to
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Then who will buy the tickets?




i take it you never been to a skins game
Posted by TheOcean
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Posted on 5/10/13 at 10:39 am to
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Personally, I find the name "Redskins" to be overly derogatory and incredibly inappropriate.


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