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re: Realistic score for a Saints vs Bama game?

Posted on 11/16/17 at 1:08 pm to
Posted by LSUZombie
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Posted on 11/16/17 at 1:08 pm to
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Define "anything positive"


Score points. Sustain long drives. Create turnovers. Get the NFL offense off the field. Etc
Posted by LSUZombie
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Posted on 11/16/17 at 1:11 pm to
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Doesn't change the fact that you said the Saints basically did the same to Buffalo, so I reminded you they scored 47 in a game where you said the Saints did basically what they'd do to Bama.


Yes, they did it against much better competition and did it with ease.

Saints > Buffalo
Buffalo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bama
Saints >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bama

Buffalo had the defensive unit to tackle and stop the Saints from scoring at will (they barely did this). Bama would have no shot to stop the Saints on offense. Ever.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 11/16/17 at 2:29 pm to
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NFL QB Tyrod Taylor with NFL lineman and NFL wide receivers and NFL running backs scored 10 points.


And NFL QB Sam Bradford got what again? Quit acting like because this week the Saints won a blowout ever game is like that. That said a shut out is feasible especially given Hurts does not look like an NFL Qb. But Alabama would not be held to zero yards nor would they give up 100. Most of their 100+ man roster may never play a down in the NFL but a good chuck of the 2-deep will at least make a camp and those that don’t are still more or less NFL size, just not as talented. The difference is marginal which most do not understand.
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 11/16/17 at 2:32 pm to
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And NFL QB Sam Bradford got what again? Quit acting like because this week the Saints won a blowout ever game is like that. That said a shut out is feasible especially given Hurts does not look like an NFL Qb
At even money, I'd bet the under on Bama points if it were set at .5.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 11/16/17 at 2:48 pm to
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The people that always say X great college team could beat Y terrible pro team are dumb. But those that say the pro team would just roll over the great college team 100-0 are close behind. The NFL team would win comfortably but not 100-0.


But it would not be a team like Bama.

It would have to be a team with supremely skilled offensive players and a great college QB.

Bama isn't staying remotely close to an NFL team trying to sit on them and run up the middle. Bama wins just by dominance and force in the SEC. Hell - every NFL team can't even win like that - they're so even.

It would take a great college offense, great skill players, etc. 2001 Miami, 2005 USC, etc.

But yeah...the last time they played the Chicago All-Star game (with all of Colleges best players) against the NFL Super Bowl champ it was 24-0.

But the year before it was 21-14.

That said, I think NFL and College were more similar in the 1970's in terms of quality of athlete and innovation.

The NFL has drastically separated itself with the increased (and black) talent pool, resources, PEDs, practice time, etc.

But I don't know why people always bring up Bama, they're the best matchup for an NFL team...just trying to dominate on the lines.

NFL team would eat their lines alive. On both sides.

It would really take an innovative college specific offensive system and great college QB with great receivers to make it 24-7 if it ever could be. And that's not Bama.

Oklahoma would have a better shot. Or last year's Clemson.
This post was edited on 11/16/17 at 2:51 pm
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 11/16/17 at 2:50 pm to
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The O line and D line difference from pro to college would be so vast, that any college team would get completely decimated and gassed
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This is where i disagree and is a clear example of of what I mean by not understanding marginal differences. I don’t feel like looking it up but the current Alabama run they usually have 2-4 guys on their OL 2-deep that get drafted pretty high and another couple that will at least make a camp. The difference between guys that make rosters and get cut in camp is not vast, it’s marginal. Size wise they are as big as NFL guys there are college lines that have been bigger than pro lines in total weight. The DL/LB are also NFL size basically and have multiple guys that will play on Sundays.

Please note I’m not saying they’d have a chance to win because they wouldn’t, they’d get blown out but by a “normal” type score. 49-0, 56-3, 59-7 something like that.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 11/16/17 at 2:51 pm to
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2005 USC
Matt Leinart would do so well against NFL players
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 11/16/17 at 2:57 pm to
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NFL team would eat their lines alive. On both sides.


Then why do they have guys on both likes get drafted high and start as rookies?
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t would really take an innovative college specific offensive system and great college QB with great receivers to make it 24-7 if it ever could b


That is makes no sense or we’d see pro teams do it. It would also depend on if they were playing college or pro rules. But yes a team like 2016 Clemson would have a better shot a scoring especially when you see how Watson was playing as a rookie who could still be in college.

Again I’m not saying they’d win or even be competitive just that it wouldn’t be 98-0 with Alabama’s offense getting negative yards.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 11/16/17 at 2:59 pm to
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Matt Leinart would do so well against NFL players
. He did in fact play in the NFL and even started games for years. I swear it’s asbif some of can’t understand marginal differences
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 11/16/17 at 3:01 pm to
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At even money, I'd bet the under on Bama points if it were set at .5.
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A safe bet, I do agree they’d have a hard time scoring but at over .5 +120 I might take a flyer
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 11/16/17 at 3:06 pm to
Matt Leinart actually started his career off good.

He was 24 of 42 for 250 yards and 2 Tds against "crown their asses" Bears.

Grossman was 14 of 37 for 144 yards and 4 Interceptions...

"But they let him off the hook!"

Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 11/16/17 at 3:20 pm to
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Oklahoma would have a better shot




Baker Mayfield would not make it through the 1st quarter,,,,,, Bamas O-line is better than OU's...
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 11/16/17 at 3:25 pm to
Doesn't matter if you don't have a QB.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
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Posted on 11/16/17 at 3:28 pm to
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That said a shut out is feasible


Feasible? LOL at even remotely thinking Bama could score a field goal.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 11/16/17 at 3:31 pm to
Seeing Jalen Hurts trying to pass against the Saints defense would be hilarious.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 11/16/17 at 3:31 pm to
I think a better comparison would be a Nick Saban coached college team vs. a Sean Payton coached college team. Of course you will probably NEVER see that happen
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 11/16/17 at 3:34 pm to
Not to mention Drew Brees against college defenders with one of the best RB/OL tandems in the league and a borderline elite WR.

Jesus he would rip them apart.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
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Posted on 11/16/17 at 3:58 pm to
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Oklahoma would have a better shot. Or last year's Clemson.

Yeah they might score a FG. Maybe. At the end of the game when the backups are in.

But Brees and co. would absolutely demolish their defenses. Especially OU’s shîtty arse defense.
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 11/16/17 at 6:50 pm to
As we all know, the other team never wins against bama. bama always loses a game. Brees finds a way to put up 50+ before being pulled.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 11/16/17 at 6:57 pm to
whatever they do until they get tired-3

Maybe 6 or Bama guys who are starters there will be starters in the NFL

All of the Saints are starters in the NFL.
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