re: Ranking FBS national champions since 1990

He just does not want to admit the best USC team the last 40 years was beaten by another university

Another arrogant Trojan who thinks at their best they are unstoppable


Vince Young and Texas proved that to be untrue

2004 and 2005 Vince Young and 2010 Cam Newton are the two best college football players I have even seen
It was like a man against boys or Micheal Jordan against the Utah Jazz or Lebron against the Eastern Conference

I did not witness Herschel Walker and I heard he was up there by UGA fans

Newton and Young would have beaten 2001 Miami by themselves and maybe 95 Nebraska

Even if the game was 51-48

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Yes, they were loaded with talent but a lot of it wasn't developed into what they were in the NFL yet and they were very poorly coached.

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Now this is completely false. You are re-writing history. Yes, most people will point to the staggering # of first round picks (5 in 02, 4 in 03 and another 6 in 04, that's 15 on the roster in 01. But those guys were all damn good college players, don't kid yourself. And to say they were poorly coached is also nonsense. Yeah, Larry Coker proved to not be a HC that could run a program long term, but that team was a lot closer to 3 straight NC than people realize. YYou don't win that many games in a row if you are "poorly" coached.

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They barely beat 8-4 Virginia Tech and 8-4 Boston College. Those teams were QB'd by all-time greats, Grant Noel and Brian St. Pierre...

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both of those teams finished the 2001 season ranked, VT 18 BC 21and both of those games were on the road. They also beat Syracuse who finished 14 59-0 and #19 Washington 65-7. They held 8 teams to single digits including 3 shutouts. VT was the only team they did not beat by more than 11 and BC was the only other 1 they didn't beat by at least 3 scores. So, no people do not just look back and rank them high because of the of NFL stars. We were well aware they were potentially an all time great team.

Auburn they had 7 games within 1 score including 3 points over Kentucky and Clemson who both finished 6-7.

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The best QB thag Miami team faced was Chris Rix

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who was the best 10 Auburn faced? McElroy? Murray as a frosh? Darron Thomas? Canton look out

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How do you think their defense would have adjusted from that type of QB play to Cam Newton?

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They played Michael Vick the 2 previous seasons. A team with that much NFL talent on that good of a D can adjust. Newton is an all time and the X factor. But he can't do it alone.

How do you think their defense would have adjusted from that type of QB play to Cam Newton?

The only team they held under 14 was ULM. 9 of 14 opponents scored at least 24. If Bama could score 27, Miami with all those pro WR and RB would do just fine vs an avg at best D.

I take 01 Miami (the #2 team of this era behind only 95 Nebraska) -13.5 over 2010 Auburn.

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He just does not want to admit the best USC team the last 40 years was beaten by another university

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there's nothing for me to admit, I think the 04 team was better, and an argument can be made 08 was a better all around team as well.

you're the one that won't admit you were completely wrong in your assertions that the 05 team returned everyone. you asked for proof and another poster provided it. they lost 4 all Americans and 2 more all pac 12 players on defense. to claim the 05 defense was better is completely asinine. since you asserted that 05 Texas essentially beat 04 usc, how do you feel about 04 Texas being shutout by 04 Oklahoma.... who in turn was destroyed by 04 usc ?

Because that game happened before the VY comeback against Oklahoma State
That game gave VY the confidence that no one could stop him. UT was losing by 28 points to Okie State at the beginning of the second half

Only thing that happened in Columbus that changed that game was a missed FG from about 46 yards
The turnovers after the touchdown were forced and not mistakes

Not all turnovers are mistakes

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95 Nebraska is the best team I've ever seen. nobody beats them. 

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Agreed. Their closest game was a 2 TD win against Wazzu and it was never that close; Nebraska fumbled twice in the redzone that day.

I'm not sure we'll ever see another team dominate every week like they did.

2008 Florida was better than 1996 Florida and I don't think it's particularly close.

They got #1 right though. No team has been so much better than the rest of college football as 1995 Nebraska was.

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2008 Florida was better than 1996 Florida and I don't think it's particularly close.

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I disagree. The 1996 Florida Gators were as dominant as they come. And their lone loss was on the road to the team that finished #2 in the country that year. Compare that to '08 Florida who lost to a good (not great) Ole Miss team at home.

And they crushed the ever living dog shite out of Florida State in the Sugar Bowl. The Seminoles were practically ran out of the stadium in one of the most lopsided championship games in college football history.

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OSU dropped a wide open TD pass that would have just about put the game out of reach

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I'm not sure which is the worst moment I've witnessed in the Shoe, dropping a wide open TD to basically seal the game vs 05 Texas, or losing to a Connor Cook-less Michigan State team.

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I'm not sure which is the worst moment I've witnessed in the Shoe, dropping a wide open TD to basically seal the game vs 05 Texas, or losing to a Connor Cook-less Michigan State team.

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How bout that home loss in 97 or 98 to Michigan state when you guys were by far the best team in the country.

But yeah, that Hamby dropped pass was awful.