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re: Ranking FBS national champions since 1990
Posted on 6/4/17 at 9:05 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Posted on 6/4/17 at 9:05 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Mizzou.... I always respect your opinions.... better defense, 04 or 05 USC?
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Posted on 6/4/17 at 9:21 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Michigan State lost to Oregon 48-14 before Oregon was Oregon. Michigan State needed two OTs to beat freakin' Indiana. They lost to Colorado State and shitty Minnesota.
MSU must have had a shitty coach
Posted on 6/4/17 at 9:22 pm to AbuTheMonkey
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Oregon fricking State just had their number for whatever reason.
Oregon State was pretty good in 2006 and 2008. They had NFL QBs in both years and some really good skill players.
Posted on 6/4/17 at 9:23 pm to 632627
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Mizzou.... I always respect your opinions.... better defense, 04 or 05 USC?
Not him
But 21.3 ppg or 12.5 ppg
Clearly 2004.
Posted on 6/4/17 at 9:26 pm to 632627
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Mizzou.... I always respect your opinions.... better defense, 04 or 05 USC?
Definitely 2004. Their 2005 defense had some rough games. Gave up 42 to Fresno and got steamrolled for a lot of the Arizona State game that year.
Fresno was good that year though. Someone earlier said that was a 8-5 WAC team, which is true, but they were either 7-1 or 8-1 going into that USC game. They never recovered from blowing that game.
Posted on 6/4/17 at 9:32 pm to VADawg
USC was down 18 at halftime to Arizona st in 05 iirc
Posted on 6/4/17 at 9:33 pm to 632627
You know as well as I that Arizona State team was very talented offensively
Posted on 6/4/17 at 9:34 pm to 632627
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USC was down 18 at halftime to Arizona st in 05 iirc
I think it was 21-3 and then Bush and White ran for something like 9000 yards in the second half
Posted on 6/4/17 at 9:35 pm to 632627
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Mizzou.... I always respect your opinions.... better defense, 04 or 05 USC?
Now your just fricking with me.
2004 was one of the most balanced teams of all-time.
So many teams when a title based on one side of the ball. 2004 - Studs on O, studs on D.
If you're talking only USC's 3-year run...
2003 - D
2004 - both
2005 - O
Back to Ohio State, I read somewhere that John Cooper lamented that they didn't have a playoff in the 90's. No shite...so many times they finished #4 or higher.
FSU/Ohio State would have been great benefactors of a playoff in the 90's.
Posted on 6/4/17 at 9:35 pm to VADawg
That Arizona St team almost beat LSU and put up 31 points on a talented LSU defense
Posted on 6/4/17 at 9:39 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Back to Ohio State, I read somewhere that John Cooper lamented that they didn't have a playoff in the 90's. No shite...so many times they finished #4 or higher
He took a lot of amazing teams into Michigan week and lost. They controlled their national title destiny every year from 1995-1997 and lost to two mediocre Michigan teams in 95 and 96 and lost a tough game to them in 1997.
Posted on 6/4/17 at 9:41 pm to The Anointed One
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You know as well as I that Arizona State team was very talented offensively
My gripe with the 05 USC defense isn't from that game. They played like shite early but settled down and won. Same as the game at Oregon.
Their performance against notre dame, Texas and Fresno was awful.
Posted on 6/4/17 at 9:42 pm to 632627
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Their performance against notre dame, Texas and Fresno was awful.
Notre Dame and Fresno were rough games for them. Texas was VY going into god mode. There was absolutely nothing they could have done that night. He was too good.
Posted on 6/4/17 at 9:44 pm to RollTide1987
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31. 1990 Colorado (11-1-1)
30. 2007 LSU (12-2)
29. 1990 Georgia Tech (11-0-1)
28. 2002 Ohio State (14-0)
27. 1998 Tennessee (13-0)
26. 2006 Florida (13-1)
25. 1994 Nebraska (13-0)
24. 1992 Alabama (13-0)
23. 2010 Auburn (14-0) *
22. 2003 USC Trojans (12-1)
21. 2014 Ohio State (14-1)
20. 2003 LSU (13-1)
19. 1997 Nebraska (13-0)
18. 2000 Oklahoma (13-0)
17. 1993 Florida State (12-1)
16. 1991 Miami (12-0)
15. 1999 Florida State (12-0)
14. 2016 Clemson (14-1)
13. 2009 Alabama (14-0)
12. 2013 Florida State (14-0)
11. 2015 Alabama (14-1)
10. 1997 Michigan (12-0)
09. 2008 Florida (13-1)
08. 2011 Alabama (12-1)
07. 1991 Washington (12-0)
06. 2005 Texas (13-0)
05. 2012 Alabama (13-1)
04. 1996 Florida (12-1)
03. 2004 USC (13-0)
02. 2001 Miami (12-0)
01. 1995 Nebraska (12-0)
Posted on 6/4/17 at 9:45 pm to VADawg
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Mizzou.... I always respect your opinions.... better defense, 04 or 05 USC?
Definitely 2004. Their 2005 defense had some rough games. Gave up 42 to Fresno and got steamrolled for a lot of the Arizona State game that year.
I actually saw SC in person both years - once in LA and the other in South Bend. SC's 04 vintage was the best defense they had during the Carroll era. That team legit looked like an NFL team. They also ended Ty Willingham's tenure at ND, which was nice of them.
Their 05 team was more a handful of absolute superstars - especially Bush - surrounded by some pretty good players, but they had more holes and were not as complete.
Somewhat on the other side, but our 05 offense was damn good, though. Quinn was a very good college QB, and Samardzija, Stovall, and Fasano were a lethal-as-hell receiving corps.
This post was edited on 6/4/17 at 9:48 pm
Posted on 6/4/17 at 9:53 pm to AbuTheMonkey
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Somewhat on the other side, but our 05 offense was damn good, though. Quinn was a very good college QB, and Samardzija, Stovall, and Fasano were a lethal-as-hell receiving corps.
Darius Walker was a big part of that
Posted on 6/4/17 at 9:55 pm to TT9
quote:You son of a bitch.
23. 2010 Auburn (14-0) *
Posted on 6/4/17 at 9:56 pm to AbuTheMonkey
08 was carroll's best defense, but point well made anyway.
Posted on 6/4/17 at 10:00 pm to TTsTowel
I'm just messing. 
Posted on 6/4/17 at 10:00 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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That's the worst John Cooper loss. He had stacked teams and this was probably his best. And they totally choked.
I wasn't in the stadium that day. But watching it on TV was awful, we could just never get anything going.
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