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re: Quick Recap of LA HS divisional revamp
Posted on 3/6/13 at 9:36 pm to League Champs
Posted on 3/6/13 at 9:36 pm to League Champs
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League Champs
They are supposedly re-looking at the issue when it comes to stepping in. As far as expanding to other sports, a new organization will likely be formed before it reaches that far.
Posted on 3/6/13 at 9:38 pm to bigcatfish
Why are people crying for the medium sized "select" schools having to play with the big "select" schools. John Curtis and Evangel have shown that the advantages of a "select" school allow them the chance to have a grat football team at a school with about 140 boys.
U High was an average 2A football team, then they hired a new coach, opened up admissions to a few kids that wouldn't have gotten in school there before, and now they have major division 1 recruits running all over the field. It's no secret to how to win.
U High was an average 2A football team, then they hired a new coach, opened up admissions to a few kids that wouldn't have gotten in school there before, and now they have major division 1 recruits running all over the field. It's no secret to how to win.
Posted on 3/6/13 at 10:27 pm to Choupique19
Believe it or not, U-High is a public school, and subject to many of the same restrictions that public schools are. And Charter schools are. And Magnet schools are. It's not open recruiting like the private schools have. They created the moniker "Select" schools to create enough numbers to justify the split.
And if anyone thinks that public schools don't recruit, and that kids don't live with aunties and temporary foster parents or their parents don't establish new "residences" under shady circumstances, then I've got a bridge to sell you
And if anyone thinks that public schools don't recruit, and that kids don't live with aunties and temporary foster parents or their parents don't establish new "residences" under shady circumstances, then I've got a bridge to sell you
Posted on 3/6/13 at 10:35 pm to Icansee4miles
Exactly, they labeled it as select as a way to get rid of more teams that are consistently competing for titles. Must be nice for 4-A to off Karr, who has played for the state title 3 years in a row.
Posted on 3/6/13 at 11:32 pm to Icansee4miles
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Believe it or not, U-High is a public school, and subject to many of the same restrictions that public schools are.
They aren't even close to being restricted. Give me a break
This post was edited on 3/6/13 at 11:36 pm
Posted on 3/7/13 at 6:49 am to League Champs
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The Supreme Court has already ruled that it is a private organization and the legis cant do dick
You're right on the first point, wrong on the second.
The Legislatute can prohibit all Louisiana public schools from being members of the LHSAA. In fact, that's what the first bill will look like.
Posted on 3/7/13 at 7:07 am to Icansee4miles
U-high is a public school, but not just anybody can go there. They get to select their kids, and they are letting some pretty impressive athletes in U-High right now. I agree with you about the Winnfield principal. The whole situation was about two schools and she and other public school principals threw all "select" schools under the bus. Louisiana is not like Texas, the problem should have been delt with in some other fashion.
This post was edited on 3/7/13 at 7:12 am
Posted on 3/7/13 at 7:14 am to tcoachmc
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U-high is a public school, but not just anybody can go there. They get to select their kids, and they are letting some pretty impressive athletes in U-High right now. I agree with you about the Winnfield principal. The whole situation was about two schools and she and other public school principals threw all "select" schools under the bus. Louisiana is not like Texas, the problem should have been delt with in some other fashion.
The problem is that there is a misconception that there is a problem. Go look at the data, something Dr. Griffin failed to do.
Posted on 3/7/13 at 7:23 am to Dr. Huxtable
Maybe you should check your facts a bit more. And
to anyone who thinks the LHSAA has put themselves beyond the reach of the legislature.
Posted on 3/7/13 at 7:27 am to Icansee4miles
This is what happens when people with ovaries get involved with football.
Posted on 3/7/13 at 7:28 am to Antonio Moss
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The problem is that there is a misconception that there is a problem. Go look at the data, something Dr. Griffin failed to do.
Dr Griffin was too busy writing her soundbites about her 145lb guard in 2011 that had to go up against a 300lb D1 recruit, while ignoring the multiple D1 recruits on her own 2011 team. She didn't have time to look into facts.
ETA: It's funny that Winnfield had a 145lb OL while they had a 6'2" 225lb WR/DE. I bet she never felt bad for anyone that lined up across from MJ Patterson.
This post was edited on 3/7/13 at 7:30 am
Posted on 3/7/13 at 7:33 am to Icansee4miles
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Maybe you should check your facts a bit more. And to anyone who thinks the LHSAA has put themselves beyond the reach of the legislature
and...nobody thought the "selects" would all get together and get ready to counter so quickly and pretty much in unison.
and... keep in mind many of the votes that passed this, do not even have football.
the bylaw deal gives the LHSAA an easy out.... and buys them more time to deal with this.
and anyone that doesn't think this is 99% about curtis and eca is crazy
Posted on 3/7/13 at 7:59 am to choupiquesushi
I'm still shocked that the principals voted to approve the playoff split this year, on such short notice, WITHOUT HAVING A CLUE AS TO HOW THIS WILL BE APPLIED. Nobody even has a guess as to how this will be accomplished.
Posted on 3/7/13 at 8:08 am to Choupique19
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'm still shocked that the principals voted to approve the playoff split this year, on such short notice, WITHOUT HAVING A CLUE AS TO HOW THIS WILL BE APPLIED. Nobody even has a guess as to how this will be accomplished.
well at least a dozen principals are now wanting to change their vote, now that their AD's and HC's are telling them they can't schedule some people they wanted to schedule.....
Posted on 3/7/13 at 8:11 am to Choupique19
If the LHSAA doesn't close the district loopholes for the non-selects this will be the most hypocritical decision ever.
I mean hell lets just take a team like Franklinton for example. When I was there nobody from Bogalusa went to Franklinton High, but when Franklinton High gets a little steam in football and Bogalusa is going downhill you have several guys from Bogalusa "moving in with" relatives that live in Franklinton and all of a sudden they are playing football at FHS.
This is bullshite.....all the damn non-selects complain about recruiting at the select level. What they don't realize is that most select schools that they are worried about don't have to recruit. I guarantee you more great football players just show up at the doors of JC and Evangel because those are the schools that get their guys noticed by the recruiting services and D1 colleges.
They had guys playing football at Franklinton when I was there that could have played at SLU, UL, or maybe even Tulane but did the coaches reach out to any recruiting services or did we ever see any recruiters at practice....hell no.
The bottom line is if you are going to talk about the problem that caused the split being recruiting at the select level then you need to talk about the district loopholes at the non-select level as well.
I mean hell lets just take a team like Franklinton for example. When I was there nobody from Bogalusa went to Franklinton High, but when Franklinton High gets a little steam in football and Bogalusa is going downhill you have several guys from Bogalusa "moving in with" relatives that live in Franklinton and all of a sudden they are playing football at FHS.
This is bullshite.....all the damn non-selects complain about recruiting at the select level. What they don't realize is that most select schools that they are worried about don't have to recruit. I guarantee you more great football players just show up at the doors of JC and Evangel because those are the schools that get their guys noticed by the recruiting services and D1 colleges.
They had guys playing football at Franklinton when I was there that could have played at SLU, UL, or maybe even Tulane but did the coaches reach out to any recruiting services or did we ever see any recruiters at practice....hell no.
The bottom line is if you are going to talk about the problem that caused the split being recruiting at the select level then you need to talk about the district loopholes at the non-select level as well.
This post was edited on 3/7/13 at 8:13 am
Posted on 3/7/13 at 8:14 am to choupiquesushi
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well at least a dozen principals are now wanting to change their vote, now that their AD's and HC's are telling them they can't schedule some people they wanted to schedule.....
I say tough shite.
Posted on 3/7/13 at 8:18 am to LSU316
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This is bullshite.....all the damn non-selects complain about recruiting at the select level
Ironic considering the last few recruiting violations were committed by non-selects.
Posted on 3/7/13 at 8:22 am to Antonio Moss
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Ironic considering the last few recruiting violations were committed by non-selects.
Man two days ago I listened to the coach of West Feliciana on Moscona sound like a damn dumbass.....Moscona is not smart but that "coach" made him sound like a damn Rhodes Scholar.
If that is how every non-select coach feels....then shite I say it would probably be better for selects to just split now and start the painful process of coming up with something that will work for just them and then let the non-selects kill sports at 35-45% of their brethen schools.
ETA I'd love to see what Winnfield's principal is talking about when they are having to have bucket brigades go around town at traffic lights trying to get them some change to gas up the buses to get them to the game that night in Jonesboro.
This post was edited on 3/7/13 at 8:25 am
Posted on 3/7/13 at 8:34 am to LSU316
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If that is how every non-select coach feels....then shite I say it would probably be better for selects to just split now and start the painful process of coming up with something that will work for just them and then let the non-selects kill sports at 35-45% of their brethen schools.
ETA I'd love to see what Winnfield's principal is talking about when they are having to have bucket brigades go around town at traffic lights trying to get them some change to gas up the buses to get them to the game that night in Jonesboro.
Winfield football will be fine. As Moscona said, community schools will be okay without the private school money in football and basketball. It will kill the smaller sports in those schools.
But urban public schools will be financially crushed if the privates split. They could easily lose all athletics.
The new association by the privates would be open to all - publics included. Obviously, there are some serious organizational and management issues with the LHSAA that the new association would seek to rectify. But it would not be exclusive or discriminatory.
Posted on 3/7/13 at 8:40 am to Antonio Moss
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Winfield football will be fine. As Moscona said, community schools will be okay without the private school money in football and basketball. It will kill the smaller sports in those schools.
Agreed....should have specified track, softball, baseball, etc.
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But urban public schools will be financially crushed if the privates split. They could easily lose all athletics.
Yea easily could see games with only players and support personel's parents there.
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The new association by the privates would be open to all - publics included.
Interesting move here......if I thought the LHSAA had any real powerful or intelligent resources in their organization I would say they would never let it happen but we all know thats not the case.
Hell if I were the selects I would do this now. Campaign to places like West Monroe, Neville, Barbe, Acadiana, East St. John, etc.....get them on board from the get go.
The more that you think about it that will be the only way, that I can see, to get a true functional, credible governing body for high school athletics in the state of Louisiana. Kind of like the civil war.....it will take a split of something bad to create a unified body that is the best it can be.
This post was edited on 3/7/13 at 8:41 am
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