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re: Punt God Matt Araiza cleared of all wrongdoing, allegations were false
Posted on 5/9/23 at 6:08 am to The Boat
Posted on 5/9/23 at 6:08 am to The Boat
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How did he get off (pun not intended) over the part about her being under 18?
People are glossing over this, but I'm curious too.
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“The witnesses say … that shortly after you arrived at the party, you left and came back shortly thereafter,” Amador said. “And you told [a friend], ‘I just had sex.’ ... You didn’t appear unhappy. You appeared to be having fun and that the encounter on the side of the house with Matt, suspect Araiza, was consensual."
In most states, even if the girl lies about her age, it's still a crime. He clearly admits to having sex with her, so her credibility (based on all the other lies) doesn't really matter.
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Amador also explained to the girl that additional witness testimony alleged that at this period of time, “you were approaching men at the party saying, ‘I want you to [expletive] me and if you don’t [expletive] me you’re a [expletive].”
Maybe she's getting cancelled like Bob Huggins?
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Posted on 5/9/23 at 6:09 am to buckeye_vol
OMG, The civil lawsuit is going forward against him.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 6:09 am to NoSaint
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In CA (and I’ll preface I don’t recall the exact verbiage) if the minor is representing they are of age it can be a defense.
Ah, OK. That's not how it is almost anywhere else, but good for Cali. These laws need that exception.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 6:36 am to TheWalrus
Insecure, unstable slut shows out at a party. Regrets it. Claims rape. Feminists would be so proud.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 7:37 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
quote:
In an NBC San Diego article that's on Google's front page:
Big, BOLD headline...
PHOTOS ALLEGE TO SHOW BRUISING CAUSED BY MATT ARAIZA, SDSU TEAMMATES GANG RAPE
At the bottom in tiny print...
Editor's Note: The San Diego District Attorney’s Office announced the football players accused in the case would not face criminal charges.
This example of our esteemed "media" is a typical Progressive tactic.
There is a saying by leftists: "All that matters is the accusation". Prime example of this.
After literally slandering their enemy, they can put something on page 20 saying "sorry" and everything is OK. Enemy is destroyed and they are no longer culpable. Evil geniuses.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 8:10 am to SlowFlowPro
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Ah, OK. That's not how it is almost anywhere else, but good for Cali. These laws need that exception.
In most states, the age of consent is 16.
This post was edited on 5/9/23 at 8:12 am
Posted on 5/9/23 at 8:15 am to Fun Bunch
quote:But he did essentially concede that he had some sort of sex with her, so the post/question you posted does seem valid.
He wasn’t even there when the alleged rape happened
Posted on 5/9/23 at 8:22 am to KosmoCramer
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In most states, the age of consent is 16.
Irrelevant to my point. Permitting people to get arrested and prosecuted for relying on a lie is terrible policy.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 8:52 am to VADawg
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she should have to serve the same prison sentence that he would have served had he been found guilty.
Should absolutely be the law.
And now publicly identify her immediately
Posted on 5/9/23 at 11:03 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
quote:
In an NBC San Diego article that's on Google's front page:
Big, BOLD headline...
PHOTOS ALLEGE TO SHOW BRUISING CAUSED BY MATT ARAIZA, SDSU TEAMMATES GANG RAPE
At the bottom in tiny print...
Editor's Note: The San Diego District Attorney’s Office announced the football players accused in the case would not face criminal charges.
Embellish the lie, bury the retraction. That's on page one of the leftist media playbook.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 11:07 am to shel311
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But he did essentially concede that he had some sort of sex with her, so the post/question you posted does seem valid.
I understand your point, but the Civil Suit that caused him to lose his job (because of the media firestorm), was the rape accusation, not a 19-20 year old having sex with a 17 year old.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 11:09 am to Fun Bunch
quote:Definitely agree that this is an absurd injustice.
I understand your point, but the Civil Suit that caused him to lose his job (because of the media firestorm), was the rape accusation, not a 19-20 year old having sex with a 17 year old.
But yea, was just speaking to the specific question that 1 poster asked but like you said, it's certainly less relevant to the main point.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 12:23 pm to TheWalrus
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Punt God Matt Araiza cleared of all wrongdoing, allegations were false
I wonder if he can sue the NFL for wrongful termination considering they release him based on accusations. any lawyers in the house?
Posted on 5/9/23 at 1:20 pm to bayou85
I’m not a lawyer but I stay at a lot of Holiday Inns. I doubt he would have a case. Wasn’t fired based off his age, sex, race, orientation ect. Teams release players based on accusations all the time. His contract wasn’t guaranteed but did keep his bonus check. Hopefully someone gives him a shot.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 2:30 pm to bayou85
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The Bills can cut Araiza or any other player for conduct it deems detrimental to the team. That broad definition covers many things, including ongoing legal matters. Araiza had signed a four-year contract worth nearly $3.9 million, with about $216,000 of that amount guaranteed.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 3:02 pm to nes2010
quote:And because they don't have fully-guaranteed contracts players are cut (technically waived in less than 4 years) for a multitude of reasons anyways (cap space, injury, performance, etc.), and teams other teams can claim them on the wavier wire.
The Bills can cut Araiza or any other player for conduct it deems detrimental to the team. That broad definition covers many things, including ongoing legal matters. Araiza had signed a four-year contract worth nearly $3.9 million, with about $216,000 of that amount guaranteed
And honestly, while it sucks and is unfair, I'm not really sure the Bills had much of a choice. If they didn't cut him, it would have been a PR nightmare and likely negatively impacted the brand/organization, and cost them lots of money, plus they would be paying a punter (who would probably still be sitting out) roughly $1 million dollars per season and taking up additional cap space until it's resolved (so 1 season in this case).
I'm just hoping that a team will give him a chance, now that it's been resolved (civil suit is apparently still ongoing, but this report makes it clear that's not likely to be successful even with a lower standard of evidence).
Posted on 5/9/23 at 3:18 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:Sure, but I even made a post about that here when the allegations were initially made public, and while a small sample, it had 1 upvote and 6 downvotes (technically 7 but I just down voted myself to make sure I hadn't accidentally voted on it):
I understand your point, but the Civil Suit that caused him to lose his job (because of the media firestorm), was the rape accusation, not a 19-20 year old having sex with a 17 year old.
Punt God accused of taking part in gang rape while in college per Civil Suit
quote:And noticed something on twitter/reddit when this first came out. People were essentially arguing that even if the gang rape allegation wasn't true, he's still a criminal who statutorily raped a 17 year old.
Obviously if he raped her, then this is rather moot. But for the sake of the argument, what if he just had consensual sex with her and didn’t know her age. If this was at a college party, in October (so a couple months into the semester), I think most people would assume a person was at least 18, and I’ve never heard of anyone asking for identification to verify someone’s age before hooking up in college.
They just ignored that this was at a college party where the vast majority of people are AT LEAST 18, and in most of USA or even the world, this likely wouldn't have been statutory rape because of either a lower age of consent and/or Romeo and Juliet laws that take into account age differences so it's not statutory rape if there is a close enough age difference.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 4:00 pm to buckeye_vol
Posted on 5/9/23 at 4:16 pm to lsupride87
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yeh, and then it came public and the nfl forced the Bills to drop him….. The bills were the only tram willing to even take a chance with him, then Roger and the shield took over.
Is this a rumor? If not, does he have a case against the league?
Posted on 5/9/23 at 4:25 pm to TheWalrus
He’ll have to do like Trevor Bauer and play in Japan
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