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re: Proposed CA bill would force schools to split football, basketball revenue with athletes

Posted on 5/18/22 at 10:18 pm to
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 5/18/22 at 10:18 pm to
I agree. Maybe it will lead to Les corporatization of college sports. But I’m not sure.
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 5/18/22 at 10:26 pm to
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It’s completely anti-American and socialist.


Our government hand picked what businesses could stay open for over a year.

The “muh capitalism” argument is so tired. Anyone who says “but the free market” post financial crisis can’t think for themselves. Anyone who says it post COVID has a room temperature IQ.

These athletics programs are propped up by colleges that operate with government dollars. None of these programs would be popular without their attachments to the taxpayer financed education system.

See the USFL, the XFL, AAA baseball, the D League, etc.
This post was edited on 5/18/22 at 10:27 pm
Posted by VADawg
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 5/19/22 at 7:03 am to
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You could replace the entire SEC with 1 star athletes and dress them in the college unis. Send all the 5-stars to a minor league. You could call it the USFL and wear those snazzy throwback unis. They could play in football havens like Birmingham, Atlanta, Dallas, New Orleans. They are free to make as much revenue as they bring in.

Guess what, people will still flock to college football.


This is absolutely correct. Even if every SEC football roster looked like Mount Union, there would still be 80,000 people at the Georgia/Florida game and hundreds of thousands more in the area for tailgating.
Posted by bgtiger
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Posted on 5/19/22 at 7:33 am to
I don't think my company shares 50% of revenue with "the labor"
Posted by Topo Chico
Houston
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 5/19/22 at 9:34 am to
When considering revenue, does that take in to account donations through institutions like TAF? Because I understand that the overwhelming majority of athletic programs don't make a profit on any given year, but funding is clearly flush for most power 5 programs and it is evident by the substantial increase in athletic and fan facilities over the last 20 years.

The bill itself is laughable, but I don't think the idea that there is ample revenue generated by the football and basketball teams to support compensation for the players is laughable.

Posted by lsufb1912
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 5/19/22 at 9:37 am to
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When considering revenue, does that take in to account donations through institutions like TAF?


Yes. The example I posted for LSU had a 56M profit & 23M of that was donations.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 5/19/22 at 10:08 am to
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This is absolutely correct. Even if every SEC football roster looked like Mount Union, there would still be 80,000 people at the Georgia/Florida game and hundreds of thousands more in the area for tailgating.


The NIL people don’t want to believe that
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 5/19/22 at 10:35 am to
A significant percentage of fans attend college games because of the social aspect. Tailgating, visiting your alma mater, seeing friends. For some, the game isn’t even the best part (I’m in that crowd).

Not many fans go to the games to see future pros. As Seinfeld said, “you’re rooting for laundry”. You want your jerseys to beat theirs. That’s all there is to it so long as the competition is fierce.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 5/19/22 at 12:39 pm to
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Why does it seem like the goal isn't to actually help anyone, but instead to destroy sports in general?
It will destroy college athletics in Cali. Here is how:

-Each school loses 50% of their revenue from the ONLY sports that show a profit, making them unable to compete with non-Cali schools' AD budgets.

-Will maybe cause an influx of talent early on from "show me the money" cats, but will eventually collapse for lack of new facilities, resources, marketing, medical and training staff, etc.

-Less money for coaching salaries, means fewer high profile coaches.

-Talent will go places with more funded departments for the exposure, support, and coaching.

-Less onfield talent, mediocre coaches, shitty concessions and high department and facility upkeep. . .means less fan enthusiasm and less tickets sold

-Lowered fan enthusiasm means TV deals and major sponsorships drying up

-This leads to the elimination of more non-Big 3 sports, with less money in the coffers to eat the losses.

That is how I see it going down. I could be wrong.
Posted by Roaad
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 5/19/22 at 12:45 pm to
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It’s completely anti-American and socialist.
It is neither of those things.

But I would be open to you convincing me that a system predicated on extreme and total authoritarian monopoly by management, is socialist.

Socialist would be if the players owned the league.
Posted by WildManGoose
Member since Nov 2005
4607 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 1:05 pm to
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start trimming the fat
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50%


Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
9283 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 2:22 pm to
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The arguments are purely emotional and from a fans point of view, not what is actually the right thing to do and in line with our supposed capitalistic ideologies of the market


For some, yes, it is all emotion. For others, there is some deductive reasoning occurring.

Student-athletes are getting compensation in the form of scholarships, books, housing, meals and on and on. One side argues they get nothing. This is a purely emotional argument as well.

Also, playing college sports is a privilege, not a right. The athletes don't have to play, they want to play. And now, rightfully, they can make money off of their NIL. Although, I think we all agree that some uniformity is needed to protect the sport and the athlete. But, the point is that they are voluntarily playing for a school and it has to work for both parties.

Now, we all should object to the government interjecting and telling an entity what they must pay someone. If this bill were to pass, the number of schools that will just do away with sports will be mind boggling. They won't be able to afford it so they will just close those programs.

Tell me, what student athletes are helped when there are less teams to play for?

The OVERWHELMING majority of student-athletes are very, very happy that their schooling is paid for and that they get to continue to play the game they love. All of those arguing in favor of this asinine proposal have their heads in the sand and are financially illiterate.
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