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Private Equity / Youth baseball thread

Posted on 5/7/26 at 2:35 pm
Posted by Chasin The Tiger
Lake Travis, TX
Member since Sep 2012
638 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 2:35 pm
Why did the thread get whacked? My 2 cents:

Our local HS, Lake Travis, is a 6A top 20 program in Texas with multiple D1 commits. There isn't 1 kid on the team from Freshman to Varsity that did not play select baseball. The head coach of the team even has partnered with a local select organization that charges $4k per season per player as sort of a funnel into the high school program. It's a huge business. We're talking multiple millions of dollars in revenue a year for this single organization.
Posted by longhorn22
Nicholls St. Fan
Member since Jan 2007
43147 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 2:40 pm to
Oh Wow, thread got wacked?

Wonder what Karen spoke up about spending 25K a year on lil Johnny and how he's going to be the next MLB player from Louisiana
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
8664 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 2:41 pm to
quote:

The head coach of the team even has partnered with a local select organization that charges $4k per season per player as sort of a funnel into the high school program.


If it’s public school, that shouldn’t be allowed by looking the other way.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
37964 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 3:06 pm to
quote:


Why did the thread get whacked?


i dunno why it got whacked. was wondering why there was a new thread suddenly

quote:

Our local HS, Lake Travis, is a 6A top 20 program in Texas with multiple D1 commits. There isn't 1 kid on the team from Freshman to Varsity that did not play select baseball.


ill be honest, that is how barbe, sam houston, catholic are. hell been years since it was different. even the AP schools who have a viable LL are like that.

quote:

The head coach of the team even has partnered with a local select organization that charges $4k per season per player as sort of a funnel into the high school program. It's a huge business. We're talking multiple millions of dollars in revenue a year for this single organization.


LT outlaws or LBC I am assuming? because wildcatters & MBG too knew in that area.



but thats less a private equity thing. the PE stuff they were talking about was really USSSA and PG getting PE investment.

but half the stuff in the video doesnt even really apply to texas and louisiana other than cost of tournaments and equipment and much of that can be negated. Even the great teams around Austin/LT arent really traveling a ton. once to the houston 1000, once or twice to DFW area adn then maybe 1 other time. rest everyone comes to them. LA has 2d which minimizes travel for most teams if they choose to stay and play select series.


the real expense is fricking high school travel ball. even the local 2d tournaments that the school summer teams play in are 2k a pop. go play the big events in the summer in GA and florida and hoover for a national team...that is where it gets expensive

as far as PE in with PG...PG has gotten crazy with the cost of the tournaments but they are only providing a service where there is demand.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
37964 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 3:08 pm to
quote:

If it’s public school, that shouldn’t be allowed by looking the other way.



what do you want them to do?

the coach is going to take the best players that are going to his school. they are going to be travel kids. He cant make the kids play for the one org but it will be encouraged that they play together, especially in like 13/14 or 7/8th grades.
Posted by Chasin The Tiger
Lake Travis, TX
Member since Sep 2012
638 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 3:53 pm to
Texas Mustangs actually. They currently have 26 teams.

PG actually has their own fields out in Dripping Springs and one of the owners of Mustangs is a PE investor in those fields. They have 12 fully turfed fields. Massive complex.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
30063 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 4:04 pm to
quote:

Our local HS, Lake Travis, is a 6A top 20 program in Texas with multiple D1 commits.


What’s crazy is that as good as Lake Travis is, they’re one of many good ones in Region IV. Rouse, Georgetown, Reagan, Smithson Valley, Westlake…all capable of being loaded with talent any given year. That doesn’t include the South Texas teams in Region IV that have damn good programs.

It’s a money grab, and it’s taking something that should be inclusive and making it exclusive.
Posted by StroKat
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2018
803 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 4:04 pm to
Select > LL with the poors
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
8664 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 4:39 pm to
quote:

what do you want them to do?


Honestly, I don’t know. I do know that people are and have been making money off of minors and with what’s happening in college athletics it will only get worse.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
30063 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 8:33 pm to
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it will only get worse.


My algorithm on Facebook started plugging Grapevine HS info, presumably because I clicked on the news about the baseball team being DQd from the playoffs. Anywho…it’s been showing me photos of 8th graders who have “committed” to play HS ball…at a public school where they are zoned. I thought it was a joke, but then I saw comments from the parents. Transfers are running rampant, and NIL is coming to HS sports. Some local businessman would love to throw money at a guy to win that coveted district title.
Posted by Auburn80
Backwater, TN
Member since Nov 2017
9995 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 9:53 pm to
Travel teams are the worst thing to ever happen to youth sports. Separating dumb parents from their money. Everybody did just fine when there were just rec leagues and that’s where the MLB talent came from. Now millions of kids are blocked from playing because they cannot afford travel ball and the rec leagues are almost gone. The talent that slips through the gaps is large.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
54733 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 9:58 pm to
quote:

it’s been showing me photos of 8th graders who have “committed” to play HS ball…at a public school where they are zoned.


Who were they recruiting against
Posted by southernelite
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2009
53563 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 8:42 am to
quote:

as far as PE in with PG...PG has gotten crazy with the cost of the tournaments but they are only providing a service where there is demand.


PG is a money making machine. They make money on the registration fees, the hotel buyouts, merchandise, apparel. Their biggest moat though is the number of facilities that they control. In some markets, like Houston, V Tool and USSSA can’t compete because they can’t access fields to host tournaments.


The biggest thing though is supply and demand, if people are going to pay it, then someone is going to charge it. Everything is expensive though, the tournaments, the coaches, the practice facilities (dependent on region), the uniforms.

It’s not isolated to baseball either, my wife coached volleyball. $4,500 a year for 2 practices a week Oct-Apr; 6 local 2-day events and 2 national qualifiers (1 local and 1 travel). Their top teams were like $6k+ which would make some of these big baseball organizations flying players all the country for free blush

Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
59017 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 8:44 am to
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$4k per season per player as sort of a funnel into the high school program. It's a huge business. We're talking multiple millions of dollars in revenue a year for this single organization.


absurd and pathetic
Posted by AkronTiger
2025 NFL Survivor Champion
Member since May 2021
2952 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 8:45 am to
quote:

Everybody did just fine when there were just rec leagues and that’s where the MLB talent came from


There's also less kids playing sports is my understanding, hence the need for travel leagues.
This post was edited on 5/8/26 at 8:47 am
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