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re: Politics Dictating NCAA Baseball Bracket

Posted on 5/30/18 at 1:36 pm to
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
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Posted on 5/30/18 at 1:36 pm to
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they should not be catering to these states

I don't think they're catering to those states. I think they're catering to the student athletes that have nothing to do with it. They're the ones playing in the tournament, not the state of California. Do you think the NCAA should send students to a regional and incite a political mess in a non-political arena just to prove a point at the expense of the kids who earned the right to play? Or would it be better not to create a circus (what California likely wants) when it is completely avoidable?
This post was edited on 5/30/18 at 1:40 pm
Posted by beaverfever
Little Rock
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 5/30/18 at 1:50 pm to
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Do you think the NCAA should send students to a regional and incite a political mess in a non-political arena just to prove a point at the expense of the kids who earned the right to play? Or would it be better not to create a circus (what California likely wants) when it is completely avoidable?


I'd just make a bracket without political considerations.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64885 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 1:54 pm to
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I'd just make a bracket without political considerations.

who says they didn't? Kendall Rogers is just hypothesizing. Regardless, would the juice be worth the squeeze? What do you think the end game is in that scenario? Student athletes not being able to play because the NCAA put them in a regional where there is political conflict between the states? You think that is the appropriate solution?
This post was edited on 5/30/18 at 2:00 pm
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 5/30/18 at 1:55 pm to
Why not just make regionals actually regional instead of sending 2 Louisiana schools to Oregon?
This post was edited on 5/30/18 at 1:57 pm
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 5/30/18 at 1:58 pm to
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Why not just make regionals actually regionals instead of sending 2 Louisiana schools to Oregon?

what if there aren't enough deserving teams in one region to accomplish this? i don't ever see LSU fans complaining when some team from the opposite side of the country gets sent to Baton Rouge or elsewhere, only when LSU gets sent to the west coast (which has happened twice ever btw). The NCAA generally does try to keep travel down when possible, but unless you think they should have quotas for bids and host sites in each region of the country, then it simply can't happen that way.
This post was edited on 5/30/18 at 2:04 pm
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 5/30/18 at 2:09 pm to
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Does this mean that some schools earned a regional who otherwise would not have? If so that is a pretty big deal
I would hope the field is set, THEN they place them
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 5/30/18 at 3:32 pm to
That's fricked up.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56603 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 3:38 pm to
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I don't think they're catering to those states. I think they're catering to the student athletes that have nothing to do with it. They're the ones playing in the tournament, not the state of California. Do you think the NCAA should send students to a regional and incite a political mess in a non-political arena just to prove a point at the expense of the kids who earned the right to play? Or would it be better not to create a circus (what California likely wants) when it is completely avoidable?



That's a ridiculous point of view. The NCAA is not a party to this issue, and doesn't have to solve it...nor should they. Inevitably, this will negatively affect some other team.
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 5/30/18 at 3:43 pm to
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Do you think the NCAA should send students to a regional and incite a political mess in a non-political arena just to prove a point at the expense of the kids who earned the right to play?

Did those "kids" not choose to go to that school in that state? You really think that an entire baseball team from California doesn't agree with their stance on the bathroom issue?

frick that bullshite. It's called life. Sometimes shite happens to you that you had nothing to do with, and maybe didn't agree with why it happened either.
Posted by Xenophon
Aspen
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 5/30/18 at 3:48 pm to
So any school can fix the issue of traveling for regionals in sports by banning travel to certain states.
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
23137 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 3:52 pm to
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when it is completely avoidable?


the fact that they manipulated potential SR match-ups because of this silliness is a real problem for me.

Thank goodness California baseball is on the decline. This would have been a bigger issue in the past.

2018 - 4 California teams in the field
2008 - 11 "
Posted by rondo
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/30/18 at 3:55 pm to
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They should set the bracket how they see fit and teams who cant make it forfiet.


money >>>> your sensibilities

Posted by geauxtigahs87
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
26267 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 4:05 pm to
The "tolerant" left at it again.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64885 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 4:07 pm to
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Did those "kids" not choose to go to that school in that state? You really think that an entire baseball team from California doesn't agree with their stance on the bathroom issue?

frick that bullshite. It's called life. Sometimes shite happens to you that you had nothing to do with, and maybe didn't agree with why it happened either.

Ok, so if "it's just life" schools like LSU can deal with it. shite happens, right?
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64885 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 4:08 pm to
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The NCAA is not a party to this issue, and doesn't have to solve it...nor should they. Inevitably, this will negatively affect some other team.

Where did I say they were trying to solve anything? I actually said quite the opposite. They are trying not to interject themselves into a political issue by not doing something they know would cause one. The NCAA would, however, become a party to all of this if they sent a school to one of those states knowing full well the state legislature would prevent those schools from traveling to those states.
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they should not be catering to these states. Just don't let them play in the tournament

This is a ridiculous point of view.

Some of you have absolutely no perspective. Not surprising.
This post was edited on 5/30/18 at 4:12 pm
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 5/30/18 at 4:44 pm to
That's not what happened

Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56603 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 4:50 pm to
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Where did I say they were trying to solve anything? I actually said quite the opposite. They are trying not to interject themselves into a political issue by not doing something they know would cause one.


That's a twisted set of facts there. The point being made is the NCAA is manipulating the bracket to prevent the scenario from occurring. The NCAA should NOT being doing that. Somebody will eventually (if not already) get screwed over that action.

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Some of you have absolutely no perspective. Not surprising.



What perspective is being missed? Funding for schools is different depending on many factors. Some schools are private. Some may be public but do not get funding for the State for athletic travel. And, in this case, some may restrict funding for travel for any number of reasons.

The NCAA should not consider that at all. Every team needs to be able to fund its travel to the tournament. It's that simple. If that team, or a team's state decides that it's more important that tax dollars aren't spent to travel to Mississippi, that's fine.

It sounds to me like your heart is aching at the idea of a team having to fund its travel without public money...but are unwilling to place the blame or require the solution of that problem to sit with those that made it so.

In short, you are coming across as a bleeding heart.
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12719 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 5:01 pm to
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Ok, so if "it's just life" schools like LSU can deal with it. shite happens, right?

Deal with what, exactly?
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64885 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 5:30 pm to
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In short, you are coming across as a bleeding heart.

in short I’m the furthest thing from one. But I’m flattered you wrote an essay full of straw man arguments to present arguments that were never made and attributing opinions of mine I also never expressed nor implied
This post was edited on 5/30/18 at 5:33 pm
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64885 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 5:30 pm to
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Deal with what, exactly?

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