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re: PGA Tour to merge with LIV Golf
Posted on 6/6/23 at 11:06 pm to BBONDS25
Posted on 6/6/23 at 11:06 pm to BBONDS25
quote:Once the saudis want in on your sports league, they will be in. There was no stopping them from being a part of it. That’s where people fundamentally disagree with you
They could have stopped this if they weren’t so arrogant
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Posted on 6/7/23 at 5:16 am to lsupride87
Why didn’t the PGA just pursue an investment from a western source and go to a for-profit model on their own terms? I suppose if the Saudis really don’t care about the return portion of their investment then it would be hard to field a competitive offer. That’s just kind of crazy because it would imply that they’re 100% using this as a means of “sports washing”.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 5:37 am to ForeverEllisHugh
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He and Tiger and the other hardliners need to push back hard against this and make it clear they won’t play with Saudi money.
Tiger is Nike and Nike is China, so let's not pretend Tiger is some sort of moral champion here.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 6:17 am to lsupride87
So did we win against the folks pretending to like and root for LIV? LIV didn’t even like LIV.
It had absolutely zero to do with golf. It was a completely shite product designed for the Saudis to get a seat at the table and half the golf board was rooting for it for what reason, idk.
It had absolutely zero to do with golf. It was a completely shite product designed for the Saudis to get a seat at the table and half the golf board was rooting for it for what reason, idk.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 6:29 am to ReauxlTide222
Could somebody explain how this will work?
Does LIV keep happening? And other than the Majors and maybe a few big PGA events, do the LIV guys even want to go do a weekly grind of PGA on top of their LIV?
Does LIV keep happening? And other than the Majors and maybe a few big PGA events, do the LIV guys even want to go do a weekly grind of PGA on top of their LIV?
Posted on 6/7/23 at 6:49 am to GeauxTigers123
Not sure that’s been spelled out yet.
Like $ and greed have ruined college football, so it will happen to the PGA tour. All the things that make it unique currently… the etiquette, equipment and course rules, tradition, honesty that’s a hallmark of the sport.
And unfortunately it will filter down to how the game is played and consumed among the masses.
Like $ and greed have ruined college football, so it will happen to the PGA tour. All the things that make it unique currently… the etiquette, equipment and course rules, tradition, honesty that’s a hallmark of the sport.
And unfortunately it will filter down to how the game is played and consumed among the masses.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 6:55 am to lsupride87
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Once the saudis want in on your sports league, they will be in. There was no stopping them from being a part of it.
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As long as I’m commissioner of the PGA Tour, no player that took LIV money will ever play the PGA Tour again.
:oof.gif:
Posted on 6/7/23 at 6:58 am to GeauxTigers123
quote:PGA remains non-profit. PIF owns all the tv rights. PGA bent the knee for that Saudi money
Could somebody explain how this will work?
The Merger of LIV Golf and the PGA Tour: Here’s What to Know
Posted on 6/7/23 at 7:09 am to UncleFestersLegs
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PGA remains non-profit.
Pretty sure I read it would be for-profit
Posted on 6/7/23 at 7:13 am to Eat Your Crow
There are multiple entities that contain the PGA namesake. One will stay a governing body and still be a not for profit organization. The one that generates all the revenue will be for profit.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 7:22 am to beaverfever
Word is Norman also had no idea about the merger and will be the odd man out on the LIV side. How ironic he and Rory need to go share a beer and commiserate.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 7:24 am to HeLeakin
I know this is an unpopular opinion but I respect the guys who didn’t go over. Everybody bows down to the almighty dollar these days.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 7:30 am to Vidic
It’s not an unpopular opinion, but your respect isn’t buying Rory that second beach house in Malibu.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 7:44 am to boosiebadazz
Not sure why Rory is getting made fun of. Oddly enough, this is exactly what Rory wanted. He wanted Saudi backing of a unified league. He got it. Hmm….
I mean, he got his exact wish
I mean, he got his exact wish
This post was edited on 6/7/23 at 7:47 am
Posted on 6/7/23 at 7:52 am to lsupride87
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Not sure why Rory is getting made fun of.
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mean, he got his exact wish
Because he was a petulant douchebag and Jay's mouthpiece during the entire fiasco. The end result doesn't erase that. He intentionally burned bridges in a public manner, with a very holier than thou attitude while he did it. He deserves some mockery.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 7:52 am to beaverfever
quote:Because a western source is going to only give funding that they think makes financial sense in terms of ROI
Why didn’t the PGA just pursue an investment from a western source and go to a for-profit model on their own terms?
The Saudis just threw money out with no real care and far over any expected ROI….
Just yesterday the PIF signed a middling over the hill midfielder in soccer for 100 million…. They are coming for soccer next, then, who knows
In simple terms
Western source
We will fund you 100 million because we think we can get 150 million in return
Saudi source
We will fund you 1 billion. We will only get 150 million in return. Meh
This post was edited on 6/7/23 at 7:54 am
Posted on 6/7/23 at 7:59 am to lsupride87
The more you read, the less likely it seems this is getting past DOJ and the FTC let alone European regulators who will take absolute glee in killing this deal.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 8:00 am to lsupride87
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I mean, he got his exact wish
As did Mickelson and Greg Norman. Monahan is a royal idiot. All of this could have happened long ago but he was not the man for the job unfortunately.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 8:00 am to MSMHater
quote:What bridges did he burn? He still is best friends with Brooks and constantly plays practice rounds with DJ and Brooks….
Because he was a petulant douchebag and Jay's mouthpiece during the entire fiasco. The end result doesn't erase that. He intentionally burned bridges in a public manner, with a very holier than thou attitude while he did it. He deserves some mockery.
The only players Rory or JT went after were those that started the bad mouthing of the tour. The only people with issues with story are LIV over the top fanboy bots
Posted on 6/7/23 at 8:01 am to deathvalleytiger10
quote:Greg Norman got his wish?
As did Mickelson and Greg Norman
His wish was to destroy the PGA. Instead, he was left in the cold in all negotiations and is the odd man out in all of this
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