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re: Penn State NCAA Sanctions thread - announcement at 8 CST
Posted on 7/22/12 at 2:34 pm to BluegrassBelle
Posted on 7/22/12 at 2:34 pm to BluegrassBelle
quote:Helped maintain the "cover-up mentality"? This argument seems to be grasping at straws. When it is found out who the people who assisted in the cover-up are, then they should be punished.
So what about the people who helped maintain the cover up mentality but cannot legally be charged because their ethics violation doesnt qualify?
quote:That doesn't matter to me. I can make up rules that say that I'm allowed to punish innocent people, too.
And if I recall correctly the NCAA does have ethics laws that the FBI does not. So they're within their bounds here.
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Posted on 7/22/12 at 2:36 pm to Adam Banks
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The profits that came from this are still running the AD and the environment and culture of the AD will go right back to how it was in 3-4 years if they dont receive any repercussions.
So it is your opinion that if the school and the AD isn't hammered for mistakes made by men who have already paid for them that they will return to their kiddy raping ways in 3-4 years? Give me a break, pal.
Posted on 7/22/12 at 2:37 pm to Srbtiger06
Take all Football related profits for 5 years and donate to abuse charities. Force Penn State to endow revenues to counseling, etc to victims of all predators via campus program.
Posted on 7/22/12 at 2:37 pm to RollTide1987
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So it is your opinion that if the school and the AD isn't hammered for mistakes made by men who have already paid for them that they will return to their kiddy raping ways in 3-4 years? Give me a break, pal.
Its a culture of the athletic department superseding everything that needs to be destroyed.
Posted on 7/22/12 at 2:37 pm to Gmorgan4982
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That doesn't matter to me. I can make up rules that say that I'm allowed to punish innocent people, too.
Penn State University has belonged to the NCAA for years and those bylaws are put into effect by multiple committee reviews and etc. Therefore they're not just "made up".
Posted on 7/22/12 at 2:38 pm to RollTide1987
quote:Maybe not everyone, but certainly a lot of people knew. It's all in the Freeh report. You don't seem to grasp just how big this is. You don't seem to grasp just how extensive the culture of concealment was at Penn State. It's absolutely mind-boggling that so many people could have known and done nothing. But they did. It's all in the report.
I highly doubt everyone at Penn State knew an assistant was raping little boys in the shower.
Why do you think people are calling Penn State football a cult? Many people turned a blind eye to sick, horrible acts against children. Please, pleeeeeeeease just read up some on the Freeh report. You'll see how sick of a place Penn State football had become. It wasn't just a few bad eggs. The place was fundamentally fricked up. It needs to go.
Posted on 7/22/12 at 2:38 pm to BluegrassBelle
I'll call a couple buddies over to review my made-up rules.
Posted on 7/22/12 at 2:38 pm to BluegrassBelle
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So you honestly believe only 5-6 guys facilitated this cover up mentality for almost 50 years?
Guilty until proven innocent right?
It's simply lazy justice. If you want those responsible to be punished then find them and do it. If not, then don't bother at all.
Posted on 7/22/12 at 2:39 pm to Gmorgan4982
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I can make up rules that say that I'm allowed to punish innocent people, too.
The NCAA has rules that member institutions are expected to follow. When those rules are broken, those member institutions receive penalties. It has been this way for decades.
You would be better served trying to argue whatever violation the NCAA cites isn't an actual violation according to the bylaws. The "innocent being punished" angle really doesn't make any sense at all.
Posted on 7/22/12 at 2:39 pm to RollTide1987
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So it is your opinion that if the school and the AD isn't hammered for mistakes made by men who have already paid for them that they will return to their kiddy raping ways in 3-4 years? Give me a break, pal.
It sends a pretty clear message to everyone that your AD can participate in a decades long cover up without much retribution. And that as long as only 5-6 guys in a 50 year period take the fall, no one else is culpable.
Posted on 7/22/12 at 2:40 pm to MOT
quote:Except that's exactly what's happening.
The "innocent being punished" angle really doesn't make any sense at all.
Posted on 7/22/12 at 2:41 pm to genro
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Maybe not everyone, but certainly a lot of people knew. It's all in the Freeh report. You don't seem to grasp just how big this is. You don't seem to grasp just how extensive the culture of concealment was at Penn State. It's absolutely mind-boggling that so many people could have known and done nothing. But they did. It's all in the report.
I understand the Freeh Report is your baby and all but it really proves nothing legally speaking. There ARE more people named in the report so take legal action against them. You don't hit every student-athlete at the school because a couple of janitors didn't say anything.
Posted on 7/22/12 at 2:41 pm to Gmorgan4982
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What does the FBI say? Does it name other individuals who committed crimes? Who are they? What are their names?
Why don't you actually attempt to read the report before you pose another stupid question?
This post was edited on 7/22/12 at 2:42 pm
Posted on 7/22/12 at 2:42 pm to PowerTool
Well, you've already read it. It shouldn't be hard to give me a name or two.
Posted on 7/22/12 at 2:43 pm to RollTide1987
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I would want the INDIVIDUALS punished, not the university, because I'm not cold hearted enough to ruin the lives of tens of thousands of people who rely on the University of Alabama and its athletic department for their livelihood.
Hate to break it to you but a university is an extension of the personalities, focus, agenda's and decisions of those who run it and have run it. The University is in the stewardship of those people and what they do lasts lifetimes. This whole mentality of "so many others being hurt and ruined" is ridiculous. If those who you claim would be ruined truly cared for the name on the Marquee they would be the first ones up to demand punishment for the crimes. They would be the ones ensuring a more responsible leadership in the future.
Posted on 7/22/12 at 2:43 pm to Gmorgan4982
amazing some people can't grasp it..they just see red and want that blood. fricking Zombies man.
Posted on 7/22/12 at 2:44 pm to Srbtiger06
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It's simply lazy justice. If you want those responsible to be punished then find them and do it. If not, then don't bother at all.
In case you haven't noticed the NCAA doesn't exactly have the authority to charge someone with criminal actions, try them in a court of law, etc.
The NCAA has its rules, and when one of its member institutions break those rules they punish them within the authority given to them.
This is simply a case of whether or not Penn State committed NCAA violations, nothing more or less. It doesn't matter who is dead and who isn't. It doesn't matter who has been arrested and who hasn't. It doesn't matter who has been fired and who hasn't.
Posted on 7/22/12 at 2:45 pm to Srbtiger06
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Guilty until proven innocent right? It's simply lazy justice. If you want those responsible to be punished then find them and do it. If not, then don't bother at all.
If they had to go back 50 years you'd likely not see anyone punished in our lifetime because of the length of the investigation.
And as I said, what about morals and ethics (which are in NCAA bylaws)? You can't criminally charge someone for violating ethics bylaws so you don't know those names anymore than I do. So if they've been broken here why shouldn't the NCAA get involved?
Posted on 7/22/12 at 2:45 pm to MOT
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The NCAA has rules that member institutions are expected to follow.
Not only that, but it's the member institutions who make the rules. And no one was a bigger advocate for harsh NCAA penalties than JoePa.
quote:- Paterno on the SMU death penalty.
"It's unbelievable to think that kind of corruption came right from the top of the power structure. The NCAA did what it had to do"
Posted on 7/22/12 at 2:45 pm to genro
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Perhaps because instead of bringing up dozens or hundreds of people on failure to report charges and have another dragged-out media circus, the FBI decided a better course of action is to hand the information over to the NCAA and have them basically dissolve the program entirely.
Are you confusing the Freeh Report with the FBI? Louis Freeh hasnt been Director of the FBI since 2001.
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