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re: Penn State NCAA Sanctions thread - announcement at 8 CST

Posted on 7/22/12 at 1:26 pm to
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90742 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 1:26 pm to
Could it be possible they are kicked out of the NCAA for a period of time? That would remove them from playing anyone.
Posted by Tolbert1906
Member since Aug 2009
2340 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 1:27 pm to
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The same thing was posted on Rivals, although they also said Penn State has to forfeit all Big Ten revenue and donate it to anti-bully charities. They also cannot play any "big" non-conference opponents for a number of years. I'll believe all that when I see it. 
I had not heard that. It wasn't mentioned. What defines a "big" nonconference opponent?

Also, psu being kept in the dark until Monday. They will find out the penalties when everyone else does.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
91781 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 1:27 pm to
When you know someone in your office is raping kids in your building and you don't get them fired and arrested and you allow them to keep working there you are hiding a child rapist in your office.
Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
29328 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 1:27 pm to
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Who currently in the football program hid a child rapist? Any names of these people?


Janitors A & B. I've also heard speculation of a possible janitor C. It could be worse though. We may be looking at a Janitor AC or AD before all is said and done.
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71322 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 1:27 pm to
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What defines a "big" nonconference opponent?


Something similar happened to Baylor several years ago. They weren't allowed to schedule non-conference opponents.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
24300 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 1:27 pm to
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You can't shut the football program down. It would absolutely decimate local businesses that make their profits during the season.

People need to look at the bigger picture

Yes, because profit margins are what is important here.
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71322 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 1:28 pm to
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Yes, because profit margins are what is important here.


In the middle of an economic recession where it's already hard enough to make money? Hell yes it's important!

Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
29328 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 1:28 pm to
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You can't shut the football program down. It would absolutely decimate local businesses that make their profits during the season.

People need to look at the bigger picture


But the 'culture'
Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
Member since Apr 2008
29709 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 1:29 pm to
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Yes, because profit margins are what is important here.


No, how about local businesses struggling. They had nothing to do with this.
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
41214 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 1:30 pm to
Exactly. This is an awful precedent.
Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
29328 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 1:31 pm to
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Yes, because profit margins are what is important here.


Maybe not, but the bigger picture is. What has been done is done. Why are people screaming for more blood? Because many lives of young and innocent children were altered. NOTHING can change that and NOTHING can 'make it better'. So why screw with the lives of tens of thousands of others? Should we bring more people down so a couple of people with ZERO skins in the game will feel good?

Shutting down the football program or the AD will do DICK for 99% of the country other than give them a warm fuzzy feeling for a few hours. It will have zero impact on your life and the lives of many others on here.

For those who are cleaning the stadium after games, selling souvenirs at a local mom & pop store down the street, selling concessions to raise a couple bucks for the local Y...it'll frick them up.

But hey, as long as you get the warm fuzzies it's all for the better right?
This post was edited on 7/22/12 at 1:34 pm
Posted by Gmorgan4982
Member since May 2005
101750 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 1:31 pm to
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When you know someone in your office is raping kids in your building and you don't get them fired and arrested and you allow them to keep working there you are hiding a child rapist in your office.
The people who covered up the crime are gone. Do you have names of anyone else who knew and didn't say anything?
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71322 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 1:31 pm to
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Maybe not, but the bigger picture is. What has been done is done. Why are people screaming for more blood? Because many lives of young and innocent children were altered. NOTHING can change that and NOTHING can 'make it better'. So why screw with the lives of tens of thousands of others? Should we bring more people down so a couple of people feel good?


A-freaking-men!

Posted by Gmorgan4982
Member since May 2005
101750 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 1:32 pm to
Well, I never liked Janitors A and C, but it really shocks me that Janitor B could do such a thing.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 1:32 pm to
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And if it did happen again, would the NCAA sanctions really work as a deterent? "you know I was about to break laws, obstruct justice, and risk major jail time and lawsuits to cover this up, but I really don't want to get Arizona St. NCAA sanctions."


this statement is stupid. the only reason laws and rules exist is as a deterrnent? i think crimianal psychologists will tell you people break laws w/o one thought as to the penalties. however, the people in charge have big paychecks and they damn sure want to keep their jobs. it is their responsibility to take appropriate action when the lawbreaker (or rulebreaker) gets caught; NOT COVERING IT UP!
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90742 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 1:33 pm to
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No, how about local businesses struggling. They had nothing to do with this


And it's not the NCAA's job to take care of private businesses. Anything that comes about, is on the head of Penn St and those that ran it. They're the bad guys, not the NCAA.

Maybe they should just revoke NCAA membership to Penn St for a couple of yrs. If Penn St wanted to continue to give scholarships, or anything else, it would be their perogative. They'd just have to find some clubs to play ball with and they would be in control of their future.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
91781 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 1:33 pm to
What some of y'all are saying is there should be investigation to see how many people would suffer by a particular person being punished for breaking rules.

Oh nope...can't arrest this man for murder...his family really needs him.

Nope can't fire this guy...his whole company depends on him.

Posted by Gmorgan4982
Member since May 2005
101750 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 1:33 pm to
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So why screw with the lives of tens of thousands of others? Should we bring more people down so a couple of people feel good?
The problem is that it's not "a couple of people." It's a majority of the people who know about the situation. It's mob bloodlust.
Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
29328 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 1:34 pm to
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What some of y'all are saying is there should be investigation to see how many people would suffer by a particular person being punished for breaking rules.


No we're saying punish the GUILTY. Not the innocent.
Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
29328 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 1:35 pm to
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The problem is that it's not "a couple of people." It's a majority of the people who know about the situation. It's mob bloodlust.


I was being generous with the 'couple of people' because within 24 hours of the program coming down I doubt more than a few would actually give a shite.
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