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Posted on 12/4/25 at 12:21 pm to hawgfaninc
Karma for firing franklin. Dont believe in it? Look at Penn State just look at them...
Posted on 12/4/25 at 1:52 pm to Swagga
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I just don’t understand how you were first in line, and whiffed on everyone.
He completely misread the situation. He thought established Big 4 coaches would jump at the chance. What he didn’t count on was that many were happy where they were, and they would just leverage PSU interest into long term extensions. He also pissed Jimmy Sexton off.
This reminds me of the pissing contest the Phillies got into with Scott Boras over JD Drew. It basically took a complete change in the executives at the Phillies to mend that fence.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 2:05 pm to Free888
Their miscalculation was firing a coach that had taken his team to the National Semifinals the year prior and who was consistently successful there. What coach wants to walk into a situation where three rough weeks will get you canned?
They actually thought Deboer, Freeman, etc. would leave their marquee jobs for PSU? They thought way too highly of themselves
It is Nebraska all over again.
They actually thought Deboer, Freeman, etc. would leave their marquee jobs for PSU? They thought way too highly of themselves
It is Nebraska all over again.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 2:15 pm to TigerintheNO
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If they hire Terry Smith, who has zero coaching experience outside of year at Temple as WR coach 13 years ago, they swung and missed and missed...
That's not true. He was a HC in high school for 10 years before moving to Temple as a WR coach and then has been coaching at PSU since 2014 w/most of that being the AHC/CB coach. He's got roughly the coaching experience Dabo Swinney had when he was tapped at Clemson.
That said, they shouldn't hire him b/c he was stupid enough to wear a JoPa pin on the field either this year. They should keep away anyone that foolish.
This post was edited on 12/4/25 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 12/4/25 at 2:26 pm to SoDakHawk
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What coach wants to walk into a situation where three rough weeks will get you canned?
100%
I still cannot believe that a 3 week stretch cost a Semi Finals HC his job. Insane.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 2:34 pm to nola tiger lsu
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100%
I still cannot believe that a 3 week stretch cost a Semi Finals HC his job. Insane.
Look at how they played the rest of the year as well. I bet if Franklin stays, they win 8 games, and the UCLA/Northwestern stretch goes down a blip on his tenure.
This post was edited on 12/4/25 at 2:46 pm
Posted on 12/4/25 at 2:46 pm to mule74
Firing James Franklin midseason for performance is outlandishly disrespectful and arrogant.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 2:57 pm to nola tiger lsu
quote:It’s beyond crazy. My dude was 42-11 in his last 53 games. How do you get fired midseason when you’re winning 80% of your games. Penn State has had success but they’re not Alabama.
I still cannot believe that a 3 week stretch cost a Semi Finals HC his job. Insane.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 4:22 pm to Dr RC
You are comparing coaching 8 years at the University of Alabama to high school football.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 5:30 pm to SoDakHawk
You people should realize that PSU made the semifinals with the weakest draw of all teams last year. Neither SMU nor Boise State should have been there. If they seeded it correctly, PSU would have been out the first game.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 6:06 pm to nola tiger lsu
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I still cannot believe that a 3 week stretch cost a Semi Finals HC his job. Insane.
What cost Franklin his job was his 4-26 record against top 10 teams. The two most recent wins were against Boise and Utah, the other two were over 9 years ago.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 7:26 pm to nola tiger lsu
Looks like they’re zeroing in on Matt Campbell from Iowa State.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 7:48 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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There is no correlation between recruiting rankings and success
I think the lowest 4 year recruiting cycle average was Clemson with around a 17 ranking among teams that have won a national championship. And that was an aberration where they probably identified some gems better than the recruiting services.
Your 3-4 year recruiting rankings are probably the best correlation of future success that exists
Posted on 12/4/25 at 8:19 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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There is no correlation between recruiting rankings and success
You’re dumb This post was edited on 12/4/25 at 8:20 pm
Posted on 12/4/25 at 11:25 pm to Deplorableinohio
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You people should realize that PSU made the semifinals with the weakest draw of all teams last year. Neither SMU nor Boise State should have been there. If they seeded it correctly, PSU would have been out the first game.
So what, he was there. He got his team to the playoff like he was supposed to. This year was a letdown, and perhaps he had plateaued after a decade, but the rush to fire him was dumb.
I assume PSU thought Cignetti would jump but it seems that was never even close to happening. Cignetti signed an extension almost immediately. I wonder if PSU even talked to Cignetti before firing Franklin.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 11:27 pm to Free888
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What cost Franklin his job was his 4-26 record against top 10 teams.
This is true, and it’s undeniable. I don’t know why Franklin couldn’t get over the hump, but he couldn’t. But he was very consistent in beating the teams he was supposed to beat. There shouldn’t have been such a rush to fire him without having a better coach lined up.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 11:52 pm to hawgfaninc
Matt Campbell will be a huge upgrade over Franklin. Look what Campbell has done with minimal resources at Iowa State. Plus he’s young
Posted on 12/5/25 at 7:33 am to JoeyP239
Yep, Penn Stste is going to fall into the best candidate although I wouldn’t assume he’ll go. So much better than Rhule and most of the other candidates and he’s high character, which should matter at Penn state
Posted on 12/5/25 at 7:59 am to biglego
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I don’t know why Franklin couldn’t get over the hump, but he couldn’t.
They really struggled to get explosive plays on offense in those games, especially on the perimeter. I think if you can point to a single issue that capped Franklin's ceiling, it was this.
It's really difficult to consistently go on 8-10 play scoring drives in big games against good defenses.
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