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Paying players is a non-starter for the NCAA
Posted on 2/25/18 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 2/25/18 at 12:04 pm
Beyond some small stipend type benefits that are already given.
Even veteran commentators that should know better come off as morons on this topic.
It can’t happen. Won’t happen. Shouldn’t happen.
I wish I could debate someone on national TV about this issue.
Even veteran commentators that should know better come off as morons on this topic.
It can’t happen. Won’t happen. Shouldn’t happen.
I wish I could debate someone on national TV about this issue.
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Posted on 2/25/18 at 12:04 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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Keep us posted
Keep us posted
Posted on 2/25/18 at 12:15 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
Debate us.
Of course it can happen.
$2,000 a month taxable income if you are making normal progress to graduate and maintain 2.0 or better each semester. If your average is under 2.0 you don't get 2000. You get 500. If you are not on track to graduate, you lose scholarship.
Free room and board and books.
See. How easy.
Of course it can happen.
$2,000 a month taxable income if you are making normal progress to graduate and maintain 2.0 or better each semester. If your average is under 2.0 you don't get 2000. You get 500. If you are not on track to graduate, you lose scholarship.
Free room and board and books.
See. How easy.
Posted on 2/25/18 at 12:19 pm to CelticDog
There would be Title IX issues.
Better solution is to let players take outside money.
Better solution is to let players take outside money.
Posted on 2/25/18 at 12:23 pm to Bestbank Tiger
quote:
Better solution is to let players take outside money.
This is the solution. It eliminates title ix issues, and allows the players who are worth something to make money, and doesn’t waste money on non revenue generating sports.
Posted on 2/25/18 at 12:24 pm to Bestbank Tiger
What is paying players going to solve? You can mandate caps across the board. It won't solve anything. The premier schools will still offer more through various methods.
Is it supposed to level the playing field?
Is it supposed to level the playing field?
This post was edited on 2/25/18 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 2/25/18 at 12:24 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
It can’t happen because it does nothing anyway.
These kids get everything paid for already. If the NCAA wanted to do something they would work to remove scholarship limits in many of the sports.
But paying a kid will do nothing. If everyone is paid the same, then you are right back to where a 25k kicker is what you still need to land some kids.
These kids get everything paid for already. If the NCAA wanted to do something they would work to remove scholarship limits in many of the sports.
But paying a kid will do nothing. If everyone is paid the same, then you are right back to where a 25k kicker is what you still need to land some kids.
Posted on 2/25/18 at 12:27 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
The clear answer is allowing outside endorsements that are held in a trust until they go pro.
Posted on 2/25/18 at 12:36 pm to Bestbank Tiger
quote:this
Better solution is to let players take outside money
Posted on 2/25/18 at 12:45 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
There are many layers and nuances to this that make it much more difficult than those pushing for it seem to be able to grasp. Most athletic programs still lose money, so you are going to force many to operate at a deficit, are more correctly, larger deficits.
Title 9, the girls are going to want theirs. Gotta be fair, even though nearly all women's programs lose money. The other non-revenue sports are gonna want theirs. So we'll force schools already drowning in red ink to continue spending money they don't have.
Then you are going to give these little stipends and Arizona is offering their guy $100K, so you would think they ain't the only guys. So this little stipend is supposed to be a deterrent to the cheating? do I want $6K or $100K?
Even the argument to allow kids to make money off of their likeness etc. is fraught with land mines ripe for abuse and the money folks and legacy cheaters will find means to competitive advantages here as well. Just regulate it you say? Good luck with that.
Title 9, the girls are going to want theirs. Gotta be fair, even though nearly all women's programs lose money. The other non-revenue sports are gonna want theirs. So we'll force schools already drowning in red ink to continue spending money they don't have.
Then you are going to give these little stipends and Arizona is offering their guy $100K, so you would think they ain't the only guys. So this little stipend is supposed to be a deterrent to the cheating? do I want $6K or $100K?
Even the argument to allow kids to make money off of their likeness etc. is fraught with land mines ripe for abuse and the money folks and legacy cheaters will find means to competitive advantages here as well. Just regulate it you say? Good luck with that.
Posted on 2/25/18 at 12:47 pm to CelticDog
Title IX will preclude any payments beyond small stipends. Schools can not afford it.
Allowing outside money would open up Pandora’s box and be hard to police.
There are a small number of players worth any money anyway. Better off without them.
Allowing outside money would open up Pandora’s box and be hard to police.
There are a small number of players worth any money anyway. Better off without them.
Posted on 2/25/18 at 12:50 pm to CelticDog
quote:
See. How easy.
That's cute.
Where's the money going to come from to the 500+ athletes at each university $2000/month?
Does every kid on every roster of every sport get this $2000/month?
Does the backup long snapper get the same $2000/month as the starting qb? How/why?
WBB players are all on full scholarship just like football players. Unlike football, their sport loses schools millions of dollars per year. Why should they be getting $2000/month?
Football players need the money because they don't have time to get a job to make money. WBB players have to dedicate just as much if not more time to practice, competition, travel, training room, weight room, class, academic center, etc. Why shouldn't WBB players be getting $2000/month?
Posted on 2/25/18 at 12:52 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
You would wind up taking out 2/3rds (maybe more) of the NCAA membership because those schools will drop athletics. NCAA revenue will plummet at a time that they are trying to figure out what to do with the future of college football revenue as it will continue to decline in dollars and fan base.
Posted on 2/25/18 at 12:55 pm to MrLSU
The NCAA is a massive organization with 99 percent of their athletes having no future pro potential and will never make a nickel in sports or related sponsorships.
There is no way they will blow that up to placate the small fraction of players that do.
The organization would be better off without those players.
There is no way they will blow that up to placate the small fraction of players that do.
The organization would be better off without those players.
Posted on 2/25/18 at 12:58 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
I agree it is absurd to think colleges can aford this. Most colleges already lose money on athletics and you cant get away with only paying men's sports that make money (football/M basketball). Look at the recent LSU report about all the LSU sports that lose money and then think about what small schools budgets must look like.
Posted on 2/25/18 at 1:07 pm to Open Your Eyes
$2,000 a month is a joke, what does that buy?
The reason I'm completely against it especially for NBA caliber guys is no matter what a school can pay them it's not NFL or NBA money. $2000/ month? Lol, that's barely a car payment for yourself and your momma. So they are still going to take extra money.
I would move to being extra strict on schools not helping them and maybe allow outside money from boosters and sponsorships. Let them make their money like the pros do, let the market decide each players worth.
The reason I'm completely against it especially for NBA caliber guys is no matter what a school can pay them it's not NFL or NBA money. $2000/ month? Lol, that's barely a car payment for yourself and your momma. So they are still going to take extra money.
I would move to being extra strict on schools not helping them and maybe allow outside money from boosters and sponsorships. Let them make their money like the pros do, let the market decide each players worth.
Posted on 2/25/18 at 1:15 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
quote:
There is no way they will blow that up to placate the small fraction of players that do.
The organization would be better off without those players.
Good luck with that organization.
Posted on 2/25/18 at 1:15 pm to Keys Open Doors
quote:Yes
The clear answer is allowing outside endorsements
quote:Why?
that are held in a trust until they go pro.
Posted on 2/25/18 at 1:16 pm to saintsfan22
What is that supposed to mean?
Posted on 2/25/18 at 1:21 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
It would be disastrous to the NCAA if it's premier sports were populated by players with no pro potential.
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