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re: Paying players is a non-starter for the NCAA

Posted on 2/25/18 at 1:26 pm to
Posted by Colonel Flagg
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Posted on 2/25/18 at 1:26 pm to
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$2000/ month? Lol, that's barely a car payment for yourself and your momma.




What kind of cars you buying as a college kid?

The players are already being compensated well. They get free school, free books and materials, food, rent, gear training, and special tutoring.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 2/25/18 at 1:29 pm to
LOL, no it wouldn’t.

In men’s basketball there are a tiny amount of future pros. Schools with zero future pros play in front of sold out arenas everyday.

Take out the few one-and-done type players and the league would be even more competitive and equal.


Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 2/25/18 at 1:33 pm to
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In men’s basketball there are a tiny amount of future pros. Schools with zero future pros play in front of sold out arenas everyday.

There's a ton of future pros. Few NBA players, but a ton of pros.
Posted by saintsfan22
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Posted on 2/25/18 at 1:47 pm to
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In men’s basketball there are a tiny amount of future pros

An overwhelming majority of the notable players. Even a well funded D-league would a disaster for college basketball.
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Schools with zero future pros play in front of sold out arenas everyday.


The money isn't in sold out arenas. You can just look at college baseball to see the public interest when they don't think you're the real minor league.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 2/25/18 at 1:59 pm to
No one gives a frick about minor league sports.

During the time when players could go straight to the NBA, it had no affect on college basketball.

NCAA hoops were just fine with no Lebron.
Posted by saintsfan22
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Posted on 2/25/18 at 2:03 pm to
But you said they'd be better off with players with no pro potential. That's not just one and dones.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 2/25/18 at 2:04 pm to
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Debate us.

Of course it can happen.
$2,000 a month taxable income if you are making normal progress to graduate and maintain 2.0 or better each semester. If your average is under 2.0 you don't get 2000. You get 500. If you are not on track to graduate, you lose scholarship.
Free room and board and books.

See. How easy.


yeah at very best maybe 30 schools could afford that.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
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Posted on 2/25/18 at 2:09 pm to
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Better solution is to let players take outside money.



So that it becomes a glorified bidding war on players? Terrible idea.
Posted by StupidBinder
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Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 2/25/18 at 2:14 pm to
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The NCAA is a massive organization with 99 percent of their athletes having no future pro potential and will never make a nickel in sports or related sponsorships.

There is no way they will blow that up to placate the small fraction of players that do.

The organization would be better off without those players.


This 100%.

If your scholarship isn’t enough and you want to get paid, go pro. And if you can’t (like with football), that’s not the NCAA’s problem.

If you feel like you’re getting screwed by the NCAA then don’t play. The NCAA will be perfectly fine without them.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 2/25/18 at 2:18 pm to
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So that it becomes a glorified bidding war on players? Terrible idea.

Why?
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 2/25/18 at 2:18 pm to
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The organization would be better off without those players.
those elite players are what make it the organization everyone watches
Posted by StupidBinder
Jawja
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 2/25/18 at 2:21 pm to
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So that it becomes a glorified bidding war on players? Terrible idea.


It doesn’t have to turn out that way. Leave the enforcement mechanisms in place to make sure, to the best of their ability, kids aren’t being driven to particular schools by money.

If Nike wants to pay a kid to wear their shoes and appear in commercials, that should be perfectly fine as long as Nike isn’t telling that kid where to play.
This post was edited on 2/25/18 at 2:23 pm
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 2/25/18 at 2:24 pm to
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that should be perfectly fine as long as Nike isn’t telling that kid where to play.
where you play has a big effect on your marketability
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 2/25/18 at 2:24 pm to
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NCAA hoops were just fine with no Lebron.
bet they wish they had had him though
Posted by Jcorye1
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/25/18 at 2:26 pm to
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$2,000 a month taxable income if you are making normal progress to graduate and maintain 2.0 or better each semester. If your average is under 2.0 you don't get 2000. You get 500. If you are not on track to graduate, you lose scholarship.



Heh. Methinks you have no idea how many student athletes there are.

As far as the OP is concerned, the Olympic Model is what should happen. If you can make money on your likeness, have fun.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 2/25/18 at 2:27 pm to
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bet they wish they had had him though
For 7 months? Not really
Posted by StupidBinder
Jawja
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 2/25/18 at 2:29 pm to
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where you play has a big effect on your marketability


Agreed, but a kid who’s good enough to actually command money from an outside source isn’t going to play for a cupcake.

If companies want to funnel money to kids (and they clearly do), then they need to figure out how to do that without making it contingent on playing for one team or another. I can’t imagine it would be that hard.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18981 posts
Posted on 2/25/18 at 2:34 pm to
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Agreed, but a kid who’s good enough to actually command money from an outside source isn’t going to play for a cupcake
So only Nike gets to sponser athletes, not the local car dealership? Also is Nike able to sponser Oregon athletes? How about Under Armour/Maryland and Jordan/UNC
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 2/25/18 at 2:36 pm to
With very few exceptions, college athletes are takers not givers.

The benefits they receive are worth more than they provide the university.
Posted by StupidBinder
Jawja
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 2/25/18 at 2:44 pm to
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So only Nike gets to sponser athletes, not the local car dealership? Also is Nike able to sponser Oregon athletes? How about Under Armour/Maryland and Jordan/UNC


I’m not following you. I haven’t said anywhere that there should be restrictions on who sponsors who.

I’m saying that if you want to pay a kid and you can do that without influencing where he plays, then go for it.

If your point is that some businesses won’t be able to do that because they’re geographically constrained, my response would be “so what”. If the local car dealership wants to pay players, pay guys who have already committed to play locally.
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