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Patrick Mahomes: Specific criticism of Black quarterbacks "weird"

Posted on 7/29/22 at 5:41 pm
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 7/29/22 at 5:41 pm
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Patrick Mahomes said he read about the study clause inserted into Kyler Murray's contract and heard the criticism of his own play and that of other Black quarterbacks.

Mahomes said he wouldn't go as far as to say Black quarterbacks are evaluated differently than their white counterparts. But he did say he found it interesting that only Black quarterbacks are subject to certain types of criticism.
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Obviously, the Black quarterback has had to battle to be in this position that we are to have this many guys in the league playing,'' Mahomes said Friday after the Kansas City Chiefs concluded a training camp practice. "Every day, we're proving that we should have been playing the whole time. We've got guys that can think just as well as they can use their athleticism. It's always weird when you see guys like me, Lamar [Jackson], Kyler kind of get that on them when other guys don't. But at the same time we're going out there to prove ourselves every day to show we can be some of the best quarterbacks in the league.''
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Mahomes went on to say he still has plenty to prove.

"You always feel like you have more to prove,'' he said. "I promise Tom Brady is feeling like he has more to prove. That comes with any sport, any competitor. If you're not getting better, you're getting worse. They build you up to tear you down. You've got to kind of know that. For me, it's all about how I can make myself better, not what other people say. How can I make myself better so that we go out there and play football games? At the end of the day nothing matters until you're on that football field playing and that's where you get to prove who you are every single day.''
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In a recent story in The Athletic, an unnamed NFL defensive coordinator said Mahomes' game falls apart when he is forced to go beyond his first read. However, Mahomes otherwise received glowing reviews from other coaches in the piece and was ranked as the No. 2 quarterback in the NFL. Jackson in the same story was called less than a top level quarterback, also by an unnamed defensive coach, yet was still ranked as the 10th best signal caller in the league.

Murray recently signed a contract that required him to study game material on his own for four hours per week. The Cardinals later removed that requirement from his contract.
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Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 7/29/22 at 5:42 pm to
Who is criticizing Mahomes?
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
76375 posts
Posted on 7/29/22 at 5:43 pm to
This will certainly be a thread.

And before people start losing their minds, remember that Mahomes was asked this question, he didn't decide to wake up one day and talk about the plight of the black QB.
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
36219 posts
Posted on 7/29/22 at 5:45 pm to
This isn’t a thing
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
25279 posts
Posted on 7/29/22 at 5:47 pm to
Mahomes isnt black, though...
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
25755 posts
Posted on 7/29/22 at 5:47 pm to
Seeing as Mahomes is widely considered a top three quarterback in the league, debatably number 1, criticism of him is pretty rare.
Posted by Nature Boy
Negatiger
Member since Jan 2008
19039 posts
Posted on 7/29/22 at 5:48 pm to
Seems so racist that half white dudes are always considered black no matter what.
Posted by BlueWaffleHouse
LA
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 7/29/22 at 5:49 pm to
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It's always weird when you see guys like me, Lamar [Jackson], Kyler kind of get that on them when other guys don't.


Including Lamar Jackson in any argument on this topic makes you lose immediately. Any objective person can hear Lamar speak for about 30 seconds and realize he’s about as smart as kids on the short bus.
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
16464 posts
Posted on 7/29/22 at 5:49 pm to
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Mahomes said he wouldn't go as far as to say Black quarterbacks are evaluated differently than their white counterparts. But he did say he found it interesting that only Black quarterbacks are subject to certain types of criticism.



Does he know of any other black QB that has this stipulation in his contract? I don't. There have always been weight clauses in plenty of contracts and Dez Bryant had to pay for the bodyguards in his contract that kept him out of strip clubs. It worked.

Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
126198 posts
Posted on 7/29/22 at 5:51 pm to
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In a recent story in The Athletic, an unnamed NFL defensive coordinator said Mahomes' game falls apart when he is forced to go beyond his first read. However, Mahomes otherwise received glowing reviews from other coaches in the piece and was ranked as the No. 2 quarterback in the NFL. Jackson in the same story was called less than a top level quarterback, also by an unnamed defensive coach, yet was still ranked as the 10th best signal caller in the league.


that must mean racism!
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
68779 posts
Posted on 7/29/22 at 5:51 pm to
Now do white receivers.
Posted by lsusa
Doing Missionary work for LSU
Member since Oct 2005
6086 posts
Posted on 7/29/22 at 5:53 pm to
If it were only possible that some folks have a subconscious bias AND some folks are ultra sensitive to criticism ….
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
51109 posts
Posted on 7/29/22 at 5:55 pm to
Mahomes has gotten worse every season since his breakout season. I think he’s really going to struggle without Tyreek this season. Bookmark it.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
115045 posts
Posted on 7/29/22 at 5:58 pm to
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Mahomes has gotten worse every season since his breakout season.


I mean he won MVP that year, there was only one direction to go

He still threw for 4800 yards, 37 TDs and 13 INTs last year. What are we even talking about here

ETA also his 2020 season is objectively better than his 2019 season, so your whole premise doesn’t make any sense
This post was edited on 7/29/22 at 5:59 pm
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
24914 posts
Posted on 7/29/22 at 5:58 pm to
Jesus, everyone is a victim.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
31409 posts
Posted on 7/29/22 at 5:59 pm to
They're ignoring the criticism Daniel Jones, mitch trubisky, etc receive?

QB are scrutinized. Period.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
24468 posts
Posted on 7/29/22 at 6:04 pm to
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It's always weird when you see guys like me, Lamar [Jackson], Kyler kind of get that on them when other guys don't.


Wait what? It's 32 jobs. All 32 are constantly criticized.


It's called being held to a higher fricking standard when you're good Pat.
Posted by UnoMe
Here
Member since Dec 2007
6293 posts
Posted on 7/29/22 at 6:25 pm to
Is it bad I read that in a sixth grade girls voice?
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
55383 posts
Posted on 7/29/22 at 6:32 pm to
Maybe kyler really doesn’t watch a lot of film. I guess that racist to say now days though
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
55383 posts
Posted on 7/29/22 at 6:34 pm to
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Jesus, everyone is a victim.
yep everyone’s a victim and absolutely everything is racist.
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