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Patrick Mahomes: Specific criticism of Black quarterbacks "weird"
Posted on 7/29/22 at 5:41 pm
Posted on 7/29/22 at 5:41 pm
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Patrick Mahomes said he read about the study clause inserted into Kyler Murray's contract and heard the criticism of his own play and that of other Black quarterbacks.
Mahomes said he wouldn't go as far as to say Black quarterbacks are evaluated differently than their white counterparts. But he did say he found it interesting that only Black quarterbacks are subject to certain types of criticism.
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Obviously, the Black quarterback has had to battle to be in this position that we are to have this many guys in the league playing,'' Mahomes said Friday after the Kansas City Chiefs concluded a training camp practice. "Every day, we're proving that we should have been playing the whole time. We've got guys that can think just as well as they can use their athleticism. It's always weird when you see guys like me, Lamar [Jackson], Kyler kind of get that on them when other guys don't. But at the same time we're going out there to prove ourselves every day to show we can be some of the best quarterbacks in the league.''
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Mahomes went on to say he still has plenty to prove.
"You always feel like you have more to prove,'' he said. "I promise Tom Brady is feeling like he has more to prove. That comes with any sport, any competitor. If you're not getting better, you're getting worse. They build you up to tear you down. You've got to kind of know that. For me, it's all about how I can make myself better, not what other people say. How can I make myself better so that we go out there and play football games? At the end of the day nothing matters until you're on that football field playing and that's where you get to prove who you are every single day.''
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In a recent story in The Athletic, an unnamed NFL defensive coordinator said Mahomes' game falls apart when he is forced to go beyond his first read. However, Mahomes otherwise received glowing reviews from other coaches in the piece and was ranked as the No. 2 quarterback in the NFL. Jackson in the same story was called less than a top level quarterback, also by an unnamed defensive coach, yet was still ranked as the 10th best signal caller in the league.
Murray recently signed a contract that required him to study game material on his own for four hours per week. The Cardinals later removed that requirement from his contract.
Posted on 7/29/22 at 5:42 pm to tduecen
Who is criticizing Mahomes?
Posted on 7/29/22 at 5:43 pm to tduecen
This will certainly be a thread.
And before people start losing their minds, remember that Mahomes was asked this question, he didn't decide to wake up one day and talk about the plight of the black QB.
And before people start losing their minds, remember that Mahomes was asked this question, he didn't decide to wake up one day and talk about the plight of the black QB.
Posted on 7/29/22 at 5:47 pm to Ancient Astronaut
Mahomes isnt black, though...
Posted on 7/29/22 at 5:47 pm to tduecen
Seeing as Mahomes is widely considered a top three quarterback in the league, debatably number 1, criticism of him is pretty rare.
Posted on 7/29/22 at 5:48 pm to tduecen
Seems so racist that half white dudes are always considered black no matter what.
Posted on 7/29/22 at 5:49 pm to tduecen
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It's always weird when you see guys like me, Lamar [Jackson], Kyler kind of get that on them when other guys don't.
Including Lamar Jackson in any argument on this topic makes you lose immediately. Any objective person can hear Lamar speak for about 30 seconds and realize he’s about as smart as kids on the short bus.
Posted on 7/29/22 at 5:49 pm to tduecen
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Mahomes said he wouldn't go as far as to say Black quarterbacks are evaluated differently than their white counterparts. But he did say he found it interesting that only Black quarterbacks are subject to certain types of criticism.
Does he know of any other black QB that has this stipulation in his contract? I don't. There have always been weight clauses in plenty of contracts and Dez Bryant had to pay for the bodyguards in his contract that kept him out of strip clubs. It worked.
Posted on 7/29/22 at 5:51 pm to tduecen
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In a recent story in The Athletic, an unnamed NFL defensive coordinator said Mahomes' game falls apart when he is forced to go beyond his first read. However, Mahomes otherwise received glowing reviews from other coaches in the piece and was ranked as the No. 2 quarterback in the NFL. Jackson in the same story was called less than a top level quarterback, also by an unnamed defensive coach, yet was still ranked as the 10th best signal caller in the league.
that must mean racism!
Posted on 7/29/22 at 5:53 pm to tduecen
If it were only possible that some folks have a subconscious bias AND some folks are ultra sensitive to criticism ….
Posted on 7/29/22 at 5:55 pm to tduecen
Mahomes has gotten worse every season since his breakout season. I think he’s really going to struggle without Tyreek this season. Bookmark it.
Posted on 7/29/22 at 5:58 pm to sorantable
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Mahomes has gotten worse every season since his breakout season.
I mean he won MVP that year, there was only one direction to go

He still threw for 4800 yards, 37 TDs and 13 INTs last year. What are we even talking about here

ETA also his 2020 season is objectively better than his 2019 season, so your whole premise doesn’t make any sense
This post was edited on 7/29/22 at 5:59 pm
Posted on 7/29/22 at 5:58 pm to tduecen
Jesus, everyone is a victim.
Posted on 7/29/22 at 5:59 pm to tduecen
They're ignoring the criticism Daniel Jones, mitch trubisky, etc receive?
QB are scrutinized. Period.
QB are scrutinized. Period.
Posted on 7/29/22 at 6:04 pm to tduecen
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It's always weird when you see guys like me, Lamar [Jackson], Kyler kind of get that on them when other guys don't.
Wait what? It's 32 jobs. All 32 are constantly criticized.
It's called being held to a higher fricking standard when you're good Pat.
Posted on 7/29/22 at 6:25 pm to tduecen
Is it bad I read that in a sixth grade girls voice?
Posted on 7/29/22 at 6:32 pm to tduecen
Maybe kyler really doesn’t watch a lot of film. I guess that racist to say now days though
Posted on 7/29/22 at 6:34 pm to AtlantaLSUfan
quote:yep everyone’s a victim and absolutely everything is racist.
Jesus, everyone is a victim.
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