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re: Pablo Torre Finds Smoking Gun re: Ballmer and Kawhi?

Posted on 9/11/25 at 6:20 pm to
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12182 posts
Posted on 9/11/25 at 6:20 pm to
Oh no. Historically y’all are as irrelevant as an NBA franchise can be.

Right now? Y'all are super relevant. No denying that.

I guess no publicity is bad publicity for a Clippers fan
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 9/11/25 at 6:30 pm to
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if all you have to do to funnel 50MM to your star player is have the owner launder the money thru a sponsor, all bets are off.


I think that’s what the oil barons were doing in soccer, although I am not sure.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98281 posts
Posted on 9/11/25 at 6:42 pm to
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Y'all are super relevant


You just said in your previous thread they werent

When Ballmer buys the NBA and squashing this nothing burger how mad will you be?
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12182 posts
Posted on 9/11/25 at 6:51 pm to
Your formally irrelevant team is now embroiled in controversy, making them relevant at this moment.

Make sense?

quote:

When Ballmer buys the NBA

Ban bet?
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98281 posts
Posted on 9/11/25 at 6:59 pm to
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Your formally irrelevant team is now embroiled in controversy, making them relevant at this moment.





quote:

Make sense?


Yes you care very much about the clippers
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12182 posts
Posted on 9/11/25 at 7:03 pm to
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Yes you care very much about the clippers

No doubt. But unfortunately for you, so does Wachtell, Lipton, Rose and Katz.

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Ban bet?

You ignored this part….
This post was edited on 9/11/25 at 7:04 pm
Posted by CovingtonTigre
In your head Werder
Member since Mar 2021
1482 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 11:13 am to
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When Ballmer buys the NBA


Buying the NBA is about the only way he avoids getting punished for this.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98281 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 12:31 pm to
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Buying the NBA is about the only way he avoids getting punished for this.


We have book marked this
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 12:45 pm to
Cuban now involved in a back and forth with Pablo on X.

The downfall of Mark Cuban has been a wild sight to see
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130337 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 12:52 pm to
It is slightly more likely that the NBA concludes that all of the evidence is circumstantial, and sweeps this under the rug, rather than Balmer buying the entire league
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12182 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 1:19 pm to
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It is slightly more likely that the NBA concludes that all of the evidence is circumstantial, and sweeps this under the rug, rather than Balmer buying the entire league

Wait, I assumed he was being facetious. Does he literally think Ballmer can buy the NBA?!?
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61479 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 1:21 pm to
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When Ballmer buys the NBA and squashing this nothing burger how mad will you be?




It would kill the entire NBA if his response to being caught cheating red handed was to buy the entire league so he can get out of being punished.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98281 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 1:28 pm to
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is slightly more likely that the NBA concludes that all of the evidence is circumstantial, and sweeps this under the rug, rather than Balmer buying the entire league


They will be made an offer they cant refuse

But yeah when its swept away i will be here for the lulz

If they nuke the Clippers i will also be here for the lulz
Posted by TigerMan327
Elsewhere
Member since Feb 2011
6204 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 1:32 pm to
How does one buy the NBA?
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
41122 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 1:46 pm to
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Mark Cuban


Gigantic loser.


It's actually crazy how small and cucked a billionaire can seem.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12182 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 1:48 pm to
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They will be made an offer they cant refuse

To buy every other NBA team? Knowing what the current situation is, no team would sell to Ballmer for less than $10B. Even Ballmer doesn’t have that much money
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
49068 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 1:57 pm to
his entire argument (which is reasonable) is incredulity that sophisticated investors like ballmer would engage in such an easily uncovered scheme to defraud the NBA. That knowingly doing this and knowingly taking the risk of being caught while not doing everything possible to prevent it is not plausible (in his world, and in ballmer’s). And it does seem unlikely that ballmer would be this stupid and reckless.

but he’s generalizing using sound logic a situation where clearly (if true) emotions were involved…get kawhi at all costs. The only thing that doesn’t add up is that this no show deal happened after his second contract, not his first, and that both contracts he signed were for the max. Kawhi did not give up anything in return for the side deals. No other team could have paid Kawhi more than the clippers did. So a plausible question would be…what did the clippers gain by doing shady shite for his second contract there? They had his bird rights, they had the leverage, there was no need to do this then.

for that to make sense there would have had to have been an agreement way back in 2019 that kawhi would sign a legitimate max contract, play thru it, and then receive unallowable benefits.

in truth that sounds a bit far fetched as well
Posted by Stamps74
Member since Nov 2017
1536 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 2:15 pm to
KL asks Toronto for no show job and piece of an outside company. Toronto says no.

KL is a clipper. Ballmer invests $50M into a tree company. KL gets both requests that Toronto rejected, to the tune of $48M compensation.

Tree company is behind on 1.75M payment to KL. Clippers minority owner invests 1.99M into tree company. KL then receives his payment.

KL nor Uncle Dennis publicly say this didn’t happen. They don’t have to say anything, but how easy is a one sentence social media post.
Posted by MikeD
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
8448 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 3:08 pm to
Heard this theory…

Uncle Dennis did the $48 million dollar deal without KL knowledge with the caveat that he would steer KL to the Clippers. That’s why the no show job part of it was so important.

From a Yahoo article: Robertson's name was listed on a contract between Aspiration and KL2 Aspire LLC. The specific sentence pertaining to Robertson specified that all "communication required or permitted under this Agreement" be sent to Robertson. In addition to that, Robertson was listed in the contract as Leonard's "designated representative."
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
49068 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 3:09 pm to
another point made by cuban...again, reasonable and logical

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And a final note. While Pablo is focusing on the $2m and $50m from Wong/Ballmer, he didn’t really get into the millions of dollars in carbon credits that were purchased by the clips and the arena. I bring this up because it would have been a lot easier and a lot safer, if he was trying to circumvent the CBA to just buy more carbon credits. They were almost all margin, as Pablo correctly pointed out, so they would have created the cash immediately to pay KL2. Which is what it appears he did with other companies to create the appearance of real revenue.
he's not melting down or flailing to defend ballmer, he's making good points that there were multiple better ways to do this and not get caught
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