re: OSU sets timetable for Meyer investigation

I'm surprised that the criminal tresspassing charge didn't get him in trouble before the restraining order came out.

So IF he was given a warning then HE WAS told by police not to go there.

Then yes, he shouldn't have dropped the kid off at the house.

Very bad decision on his part if all that is true.

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Then yes, he shouldn't have dropped the kid off at the house.

Very bad decision on his part if all that is true.

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So IF he was given a warning then HE WAS told by police not to go there. Then yes, he shouldn't have dropped the kid off at the house. Very bad decision on his part if all that is true.

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NOW its all coming together and we're starting to think logically here and not derailed by OSU bias, never eliminate hope for people when it may appear unsalvageable at times

I agree with anyone saying Urban used poor judgement keeping Smith around.

The guy was a loose cannon publicly on Twitter along with all theae DV allegations.

I've never said differently.

So the grounds for the protection order partially could have been this criminal charge.

Still not a slam dunk for her, but doesn't help him.

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So IF he was given a warning then HE WAS told by police not to go there. Then yes, he shouldn't have dropped the kid off at the house. Very bad decision on his part if all that is true.


NOW its all coming together and we're starting to think logically here and not derailed by OSU bias, never eliminate hope for people when it may appear unsalvageable at times

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I don't know if this is true or not (think I read it more than one place), but it seemed in some ways like this criminal trespass was almost a setup thing set up by Courtney so he would violate it. Like he asked where to drop them off and she suggested the house, then when he showed up where they had agreed she said he violated the order.

Oh found it it was Smith's attorney who said this:

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“They were texting each other as to where to meet,” Koffel said. “She told him to meet at their apartment complex clubhouse. He drove there. She wasn’t there. He dropped the son off at her apartment. She was waiting for him with her cell phone out and took a picture of him in her driveway. He left. Then she called the Powell police and said it was trespassing. She never presented a shared parenting plan to the police department. She never presented a shared parenting plan to the Delaware Prosecutor’s Office, and a criminal complaint was filed against Zach. He was never arrested. He went to the Powell (police department) to pick up the criminal trespassing complaint. At no point did he violate the shared parenting plan, and we entered a not guilty on June 5. That’s it.”

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No clue but I remember reading this like a set up

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I agree with anyone saying Urban used poor judgement keeping Smith around.

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I understand. You point out an overstatement and before long you are stuck being the primary advocate for a person or position. I internet too.

Nevertheless, I think you are overplaying some of this. As shown in some of the local papers, there is a documented history of police calls; there are statements of a belief of liability by public officials; there are restraining orders; we have witness statements from neighbors and there are statements by Smith's own attorney that 2009 injuries were during restraint.

Pointing to C. Smith as just being crazy is a bit too far. We know there is a systematic series of domestic indicidents that others have considered improper regardless of the ultimate level of liability.

Likwise, we also know from Meyer's own admissions that he was aware of the incidents in 2009 and at lease somewhat aware of the incidents in 2015. Is it plausible that he just thought it was C. Smith being nuts--- certainly; should we make Meyer a Justice, police or university investigator-- I say no, but current society would disagree.

Consequently, even the optics on the position of "wife is just trying to angle for the kids" determination by Meyer is bad for the university.

We also know that Gene Smith, knew. That may change the game a little bit on what we are required to do, and what exactly happened behind the scenes.

I just want people to speak accurately with facts.


There's more than enough blame to go around for 100% verifiable actions that we don't need untruths to be spread around as fact.

That was my point in refuting the way people have been stating these allegations.

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I agree with anyone saying Urban used poor judgement keeping Smith around.

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Urban's relationship with Earle Bruce is going to be a big part of the story and his unwavering loyalty to Zach Smith