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re: Odds for Burrow's Bengals to make the playoffs. 6.75 to 1 - Good bet? Bad bet?
Posted on 5/17/20 at 11:51 am to Buckeye Jeaux
Posted on 5/17/20 at 11:51 am to Buckeye Jeaux
I think Joe is one of the better rookie QBs to come out in recent memory. I just think there are a number of things going against him, mainly that he won't have the prep time that a QB usually has, and he's not going to a team with a lot in place like say Andrew Luck did.
I think if he wins 7 games that'd be a hell of an accomplishment given the circumstances. Just don't think 9 or 10 is in the cards, but we'll see. I'll watch every Bengals game that I can.
I think if he wins 7 games that'd be a hell of an accomplishment given the circumstances. Just don't think 9 or 10 is in the cards, but we'll see. I'll watch every Bengals game that I can.
This post was edited on 5/17/20 at 11:53 am
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Posted on 5/17/20 at 11:54 am to Buckeye Jeaux
He is no better than Peyton Manning was. Yes he had a unreal season last year but that doesn’t make him Superman coming into the pros.... you don’t seem to know how all this works..... you are just pushing for your boy.......
Posted on 5/17/20 at 12:21 pm to dukke v
quote:I don't claim to understand every aspect of the game. But I have a pretty fair understanding of what makes the passing game work.
you don’t seem to know how all this works..... you are just pushing for your boy.......
All indications are that Zac Taylor will adapt the Bengals offense to Joe's skill-set. Joe is deadly in that offense. He could figure out a more standard pro-set, but it would take a few seasons.
and it isn't like Burrow hasn't faced big-time DBs. LSU had a slew of them, and so did Ohio St. He threw thousands of reps against them in practices. And the DBs he faced in games were no slouches either.
Looks like the Bengals will go 4 and 5 wide very often in 2020. There is always an open guy/zone in that system. it ain't brain surgery. JB and his receivers will find the wide-open windows.
And, I'm guessing the Bengals receivers will have as much fun running it as LSU did. Receivers love that offense. It should be humming by early Oct.
So back to the point of the OP. I think it is better than even odds that the Bengals win 9 or 10 games (running that particular offense). And Vegas is giving 6.75 to 1.
This post was edited on 5/17/20 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 5/17/20 at 12:32 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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I think it is better than even odds that the Bengals win 9 or 10 games
Posted on 5/17/20 at 12:38 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
Sorry but you will end up being disappointed........ I doubt you will be here then to take your lumps.....
Posted on 5/17/20 at 12:44 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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But I have a pretty fair understanding of what makes the passing game work.
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and it isn't like Burrow hasn't faced big-time DBs. LSU had a slew of them
LSU played at best 3 teams with equal or similar talent, Clemson, Alabama and maybe UGA, everyone else was out classed.
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All indications are that Zac Taylor will adapt the Bengals offense to Joe's skill-set
Looks like the Bengals will go 4 and 5 wide very often in 2020.
and these indications come from what exactly? Zoom meetings ? Which is not to say they won't but seeing as they haven't been able to meet in person let alone practice as a team its a tad premature to say stuff like this.
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Looks like the Bengals will go 4 and 5 wide very often in 2020. There is always an open guy/zone in that system. it ain't brain surgery. JB and his receivers will find the wide-open windows.
don't watch much pro football do you?
or course there will be times when there are open guys in 4-5 wide just like there can be in other formations. There are also times when there won't be or the pass rush won't give the time t find him.
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I think it is better than even odds that the Bengals win 9 or 10 games (running that particular offense). And Vegas is giving 6.75 to 1
then bet everything you have, in fact you some borrow money and leverage up and really clean house
Posted on 5/17/20 at 1:11 pm to H-Town Tiger
Where are you guys getting shortened prep time? They are doing meetings now and going over plays more than ever before. Training camp isn't scheduled for over a month. They might push everything back a few weeks, but camp will still be the same amount of time. Are you basing this off limited OTAs? Everybody is dealing with the same stuff. The Bengals are doing 7 on 7s next week and guys are meeting outside the facilities, working out together. There will be a growing cueve, as the Bengals will be one of the 5 youngest teams in the league. But they just means they will keep getting better..
Posted on 5/17/20 at 1:36 pm to H-Town Tiger
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LSU played at best 3 teams with equal or similar talent, Clemson, Alabama and maybe UGA, everyone else was out classed.
You are obviously clueless as to where the magic is produced - on the practice field. Burrow likely got at least 20 reps in practice for every game rep.
Burrow practiced against *7 1st round DB's at Ohio State, and a slew of excellent DBs at LSU.
Burrow is as NFL-ready as any QB has ever been.
*Okudah, Arnette, Ward, Lattimore, Hooker, Conley, Apple
quote:You really don't understand the difference between the passing offense you saw in 2019, and the run of the mill pro-set offense the NFL has been playing since the 1950's. You don't. Do you.
of course there will be times when there are open guys in 4-5 wide just like there can be in other formations.
This post was edited on 5/17/20 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 5/17/20 at 1:39 pm to brmark70816
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Are you basing this off limited OTAs?
yes and the fact they can't meet in person. Burrow himself has talked about how much time him and the other players worked together in the off season.
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Everybody is dealing with the same stuff.
and not everybody is a rookie QB for a bad team, don't you think that's an advantage for established teams? . He didn't light the world on fire his first year at LSU. Part of that is the offense was changed in 2019 but part of it was he was new, didn't know the players the offense etc. Also what Ree can't comprehend is its not just the QB, the other guys on the offense need to get acclimated too.
All that said, it wouldn't be the most shocking turn around in NFL history if the Bengals won 8-9 games and took that last playoff spot. The AFC is definitely the weaker conference overall. Its just unlikely schedule wise they play Balt and Pitt twice and at Phil and Hou (2 playoff teams last year) plus at Indy who looks vastly improved (new veteran QB different than rookie) Tennessee, Dallas even Cleveland at least once are possible losses, i really don't see 9 wins but who the hell knows at this point.
Posted on 5/17/20 at 1:41 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
Doubtful, even with Burrow. The Ravens will likely win the division, so they’ll have to rely on a wildcard bid, which isn’t particularly likely.
This post was edited on 5/17/20 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 5/17/20 at 1:42 pm to TT9
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He has weapons on the outside if Green is fully healthy
Which hasn’t been the case for years, and probably won’t be the case this year.
Posted on 5/17/20 at 1:47 pm to Roll Tide Ravens
quote:14 teams in the playoffs now, so 50% better shot at a wild card
so they’ll have to rely on a wildcard bid, which isn’t particularly likely.
And every 9+ game winner except one got in the playoff last season - Again, there are 2 additional playoff slots in 2020
This post was edited on 5/17/20 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 5/17/20 at 1:50 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
Burrow's rookie season with the Bengals will not be as good as Andy Dalton's
Posted on 5/17/20 at 2:00 pm to Roll Tide Ravens
quote:If Green wasn't healthy, there's now way they would have paid him franchise tag money
Which hasn’t been the case for years, and probably won’t be the case this year.
Posted on 5/17/20 at 3:25 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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If Green wasn't healthy, there's now way they would have paid him franchise tag money
Your assuming the Bengals ownership is competent. There is not another team in the NFL that would pay franchise tag money ($18 million) for a WR that has played in only 9 games since the 2017 season.
Posted on 5/17/20 at 3:26 pm to brmark70816
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Are you basing this off limited OTAs? Everybody is dealing with the same stuff.
Yes but everyone's not a rookie QB.
Posted on 5/17/20 at 3:29 pm to weadjust
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Your assuming the Bengals ownership is competent.
No. I'm assuming they are way past frugal. No way they are throwing franchise tag money at a player without solid medical opinions that he is good to go.
Posted on 5/17/20 at 3:40 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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If Green wasn't healthy, there's now way they would have paid him franchise tag money
We’re talking about the Bengals, man.
Posted on 5/17/20 at 3:40 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
A franchise tag is like a rental, and it prevents the team from losing the guy for nothing. When you're all in on a guy you lock him down long term, because a long term deal is the better bargain for someone that you think will continue that level of play.
When you throw a franchise tag at a guy you're betting against him, that his value will come down in the next year so you can get him more cheaply.
Whether he's injured or not, he still has value. Franchising him gives the team options on whether they want to trade him, keep him as a one year-rental or sign him long term.
When you throw a franchise tag at a guy you're betting against him, that his value will come down in the next year so you can get him more cheaply.
Whether he's injured or not, he still has value. Franchising him gives the team options on whether they want to trade him, keep him as a one year-rental or sign him long term.
This post was edited on 5/17/20 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 5/17/20 at 3:44 pm to Roll Tide Ravens
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We’re talking about the Bengals, man.
We're talking about $18,000,000, man.
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