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re: Odds for Burrow's Bengals to make the playoffs. 6.75 to 1 - Good bet? Bad bet?

Posted on 5/15/20 at 6:42 pm to
Posted by Clark14
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Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 6:42 pm to
I don't watch much pro football anymore,but I will certainly watch this team if they play.

The discussion here should be quite good.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
9788 posts
Posted on 5/15/20 at 8:35 pm to
I believe than Jackson plays about 12, but he is hampered and it affects his performace. Plus the league figures him out a bit..
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 11:05 am to
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would like flushing it down the toilet.


gamblers anon.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 11:15 am to
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believe than Jackson plays about 12, but he is hampered and it affects his performace. 


jackson being hammered on a knee as he skitters out of bounds in preseason game makes the bet a better one.
misses 5 full games,
key = never the same guy.
joe namath says hi.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 12:08 pm to
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I can probably count on one hand the number of teams that went from worst in the league to playoff contender the next just because they landed the #1 draft pick


1) How many teams drafted the QB coming off the best passing performance in the history of college football (and did it against the toughest competition imaginable)

2) How many had a QB who understands the red-hot LSU/Saints offense better than 99% of the coaches in the NCAA and NFL?

3) How many of those "worst" NFL teams were CLEARLY tanking for a #1 QB? (Google "Tank for Tua, Bengals" - you'll see that is was no secret... the first two results on your Google search should be Sporting News and Newsweek in October - there was nothing subtle about it)

4) Bengals lost 7 games by a TD or less in '19 - while TRYING to lose.

5) Making the 14-team playoff puts them on the high side of mediocre, doesn't make them the '85 Bears.
Posted by dukke v
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Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 5/16/20 at 12:57 pm to
You are way out of control here....... you have zero clue what you are talking about..... AND you said you were gonna be gone from here after the draft. Yet here you are going batshit crazy thinking the Bengals will make the playoffs just because of Joe...... you are pathetic......
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
71133 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 1:07 pm to
Steelers went 8-8 with Mason Rudolph and an undated free agent at quarterback and their top WR and top RB playing hurt.

They also have to worry about a very tough Ravens team.
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
37586 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 1:08 pm to
Get help, dude

Your obsession with Burrow is beyond creepy
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59104 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 1:43 pm to
The Panthers were a 12 win team 2 years before going 2-14 and drafting Cam Newton who had what was widely regarded as one of the greatest seasons ever for a QB and was the first QB since Davey O Brien to go undefeated, win the Heisman and National Title and they went 6-10.

You are over playing your hand on Burrow. The pros are a different animal, he may have a great career but expecting them to just dominate from day one, especially since as someone noted they will have less prep time.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 2:07 pm to
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You are over playing your hand on Burrow. The pros are a different animal, he may have a great career but expecting them to just dominate


Dominate? I'm saying they'll win 9 or 10 games.

Amazing that you retards can watch the greatest QB season in the history of college football... Then argue against Burrow taking that offense to Cincy and having a slightly better than mediocre season.

You are some KEEN judges of football talent!! LOL !!!

Posted by Woopigsooie20
Me Scusi
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 5/16/20 at 11:15 pm to
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The team is actually pretty loaded


Posted by Woopigsooie20
Me Scusi
Member since Mar 2010
57357 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 11:19 pm to
You know his season at LSU has nothing to do with his rookie year right?
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 5/17/20 at 1:59 am to
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You know his season at LSU has nothing to do with his rookie year right?

Yeah. Sure. Right. OK.

Thanks for your "insight".

Now go to your room and get some sleep. We're going to let you sweep the sidewalks and wave at the cars tomorrow.
This post was edited on 5/17/20 at 6:22 am
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59104 posts
Posted on 5/17/20 at 9:12 am to
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Amazing that you retards can watch the greatest QB season in the history of college football... Then argue against Burrow taking that offense to Cincy and having a slightly better than mediocre season.


What's truly amazing Ree is your bizarro either or world view. You cherry pick so much you can't see the forest for the trees . Having a great season in college, the best season ever even means nothing in the pros and having a mediocre or even subpar season as a rookie means very little in terms of a whole career. A lot of the top QBs didn't even play as rookies. Peyton Manning was a 4 year starter on college, was drafted by a bad team and struggled as a rookie, they went 3-13. His 2nd year he improved and the team went 13-3.

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You are some KEEN judges of football talent!! LOL !!!


It's you that doesn't understand how football and the world works. You keep talking about the Saints offense, Drew Brees is a veteran HOF QB and 4 years ago the Saints were in a 3 year 7-9 stretch. He didn't forget how to be elite the rest of the team, especially the D was awful, so they brought in some new people in the organization, drafted a lot better and become contenders again. It takes a team not just a "magic" QB. I already said it's not impossible Cincinnati could make the playoffs but unlikely. They have some pieces but some holes too and again, with no off season or OTAs (Burrow has talked a lot about how him and the WR especially started working after the 2018 season was over) it won't be surprising if a rookie has some struggles and the team wins 5-6 maybe 7 games.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
9788 posts
Posted on 5/17/20 at 10:28 am to
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Peyton Manning was a 4 year starter on college, was drafted by a bad team and struggled as a rookie, they went 3-13



In Dalton's first year, the Bengals went from 4-12 to 9-7 and in the playoffs. As a rookie, Mayfield went 6-7. Tannehill went 7-9. Big Ben went 13-0. Flacco went 11-5. Bridgewater went 6-6. Sam Bradford went 7-9. Wentz went 7-9. Matt Ryan went 11-5. So did Russell Wilson. RG3 went 10-6. The Cowboys went from 4-12 in Romo's last season to 13-3 with rookie Dak Prescott. All of these are pretty recent..
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 5/17/20 at 10:31 am to
No one is getting much offseason work - not just Burrow. And when they get a green light, Burrow will be working with any of the Bengals crew who will show up. He won't be waiting around for a scheduled camp to get started.

And you act as though making the playoffs is like winning all four majors in golf. Yes, it is a solid accomplishment - but not a Herculean task. All these QBs got to the playoffs as rookies... Prescott, Dalton, Ryan, Luck, Wilson, Griffin.

You've been throwing soft shade at Burrow from the day he arrived in BR. Nothing new. Same old shite.
This post was edited on 5/17/20 at 10:54 am
Posted by BillyBobfan24_7
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Member since May 2004
18065 posts
Posted on 5/17/20 at 11:13 am to
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They either will or will not have them depending on their win-loss record.


The frick is wrong with you?
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 5/17/20 at 11:15 am to
Not the same shite dude..... the Bengals will NOT make the playoffs this season. Dream on. You are right nobody is getting any off season work which in fact will make it even harder on the Bengals already being the worst team in the league.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 5/17/20 at 11:25 am to
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In Dalton's first year, the Bengals went from 4-12 to 9-7 and in the playoffs. As a rookie, Mayfield went 6-7. Tannehill went 7-9. Big Ben went 13-0. Flacco went 11-5. Bridgewater went 6-6. Sam Bradford went 7-9. Wentz went 7-9. Matt Ryan went 11-5. So did Russell Wilson. RG3 went 10-6. The Cowboys went from 4-12 in Romo's last season to 13-3 with rookie Dak Prescott. All of these are pretty recent..




Those are the results on the higher end. You're leaving out a lot of QBs that didn't do so well in that same time interval.

You average out those guys above, the very best results and you get an average of 9 wins. You average in the average rookie QB's record and it's a lot lower.
This post was edited on 5/17/20 at 11:26 am
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 5/17/20 at 11:36 am to
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You average out those guys above, the very best results and you get an average of 9 wins. You average in the average rookie QB's record and it's a lot lower.


You seriously believe Burrow is an average rookie 1st round QB?

There is also the quality that Anthony Munoz discussed. The ability for a QB to bring a team together to make polishing an offense a positive team challenge.

Most QBs just don't have that. Burrow has it for sure.
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