re: Notre Dame-USC rivalry coming to an end

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USC is so soft. Caught lying because they are too scared to play ND, and want to ruin a top rivalry in the sport.

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Yeah USC is the soft program

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Yes, they cancelled a historic rivalry because it Might help the other team, and when they got called out on it tried to whine about something being a new development when they knew about it for 18 months.

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Yeah USC is the soft program

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They clearly are. Riley’s been pushing for this game to end for 18+ months.

This is the first time I’ve ever heard of a series ending when the team with the 80% winning percentage the previous decade is the “soft” one / is the one that wants the series to end, but the MSB never ceases to amaze.

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Yes, they cancelled a historic rivalry

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You’re one of the stranger posters here

As we've seen over the last couple weeks, Notre Dame are a bunch of entitled toddlers who think the world revolves around them. This is just another example.

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What is their incentive to play Notre Dame?

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Well as I mentioned, if they’d beaten us this year, they’d be in the Playoff. If they didn’t play us this year and beat Stanford instead to finish 10-2, they’d still be behind Miami, ND, Texas and Vanderbilt (they’d probably be ahead of Utah though). I don’t know how next year will play out, but if they go 10-2 with losses to OSU and Oregon, and Indiana takes a step back, they will very likely not make the playoff without an ND win, just like 10-2 Vanderbilt (SEC) didn’t make the field this year nor 10-2 Notre Dame. But USC knows they’re not gonna win the game, so it’s still better for them to not play it.

From ND’s perspective, USC has not been an high-quality opponent recently. Including this year, they’ve finished ranked in the top-10 once in the past 14 seasons. Once. And that was back in 2016. They haven’t finished ranked in the top-10 at all in the past 9 seasons. Not even once.

They are a blueblood, but they are not a resume booster in present day. A 10-2 ND with a win over them wasn’t strong enough to make the field this year. When I said we replaced them with BYU next year who’s equivalent, I was not saying BYU is a better historical program. I was not saying BYU is a blueblood. I was saying BYU’s seasons in recent years have been in similar quality to USC’s.

The reason I want to play USC is because I like to beat USC. If on the rare occasion they have an elite season, even better. But like how you probably feel about ISU (if you’re actually a Hawkeye fan, ignore if not), it’s great if they can be a resume boost… but it really doesn’t matter if they are or not, you just want to play/beat them regardless. Regardless, based on USC’s recent level of play, we don’t “need” them. 11-1 and we’re in, with or without USC. 10-2 and we’re out, with or without USC.

The CFP killed this game.

Texas vs Ohio State showed everyone why these games will now be cancelled.

Loss column all that matters. Texas plays Rice instead of Ohio State and they are in the playoffs.

If ND wants to play USC, join the conference

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Also, this is BS. There was never an agreement to do this. You are not allowed to play in week zero unless you play at Hawaii at some point during the season or play in a foreign country

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The NCAA can grant waivers to this for various reasons. UNLV didn't travel to Hawaii this year but played Idaho State week 0 because there was an availability issue with Allegiant stadium on the originally scheduled date.

I highly doubt the the NCAA would have denied a waiver for ND-USC if they claimed it was the only workable date for both schools.

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And Miami plays FAU instead of ND they aren’t in the playoffs. These strong OOC games are extremely useful if you win them.

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Miami is in a trash league — which was won by a 7-5 team — that is teetering on collapse, and they played Notre Dame only because Notre Dame is kind of in that conference.

Iowa has no reason to keep playing Iowa State, but they do it for charity. Nobody going to be Notre Dames charity in this environment. They’ll be left with schools like Texas Tech and BYU who want the resume builders and can probably afford a L.

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Miami is in a trash league — won by a 7-5 team — that is teetering on collapse, and they played Notre Dame only because Notre Dame is kind of in that conference.

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Yes, the ACC is trash, but not like ND and Miami don’t have a history playing each other before then.

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Iowa has no reason to keep playing Iowa State, but they do it for charity. Nobody going to be Notre Dames charity in this environment. They’ll be left with schools like Texas Tech and BYU who want the resume builders and can probably afford a L

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I get your point, but rivalries are what make college football great. Iowa vs Iowa State is an in state rivalry that has played 71 times, that should be something being persevered just like ND vs USC who have played 96 times.

If all these 100 year old rivalries go away for stupid mega conference artificial conference games then the sport is truly lost.