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re: Not One 8th Grade Student at the Lebron James Akron School Has Passed a State Math Test

Posted on 7/29/23 at 9:05 am to
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 7/29/23 at 9:05 am to
There’s an article from the New York Times in 2019 that talks about how far behind a lot of these kids started compared to others. No idea how it is now, but 29% of the students were special education, and the 3rd and 4th grade classes they highlighted were both in the lowest percentile in test taking when they did start at the school.

Granted, I have no idea what happened since then because you would think at least one student would have to have passed the state math test. I’d be interested to see the growth numbers comparatively to where they were pre-Covid.

NY Times
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44231 posts
Posted on 7/29/23 at 9:22 am to
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Poor black kids don’t math no matter how much money an entity throws at them.


Wrong.

I’ve seen poor black kids do well in Math in relation to the other subjects.

At a school with this degree of funding, the bottom 5% is grossly unacceptable. You are just letting your man crush on Lebron get in the way of legit common sense analysis.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44231 posts
Posted on 7/29/23 at 9:24 am to
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No idea how it is now, but 29% of the students were special education


I mean, that is not exactly over the top in an inner city school. Hell, it is not over the top at a school in the suburbs.

quote:

I’d be interested to see the growth numbers comparatively to where they were pre-Covid.


I agree.

That being said, did they raise it from 4% to 5%?

This post was edited on 7/29/23 at 9:26 am
Posted by TigerMan327
Elsewhere
Member since Feb 2011
6198 posts
Posted on 7/29/23 at 9:39 am to
Lol you don’t think 30% of an entire schools kids being special Ed is over the top? What school did you attend? I’d assume most schools are way less than 10%
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
30763 posts
Posted on 7/29/23 at 9:39 am to
At least they can read the first page of books.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111392 posts
Posted on 7/29/23 at 9:50 am to
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Then get them to focus on trades rather than failing math class
So you want Lebron to run an illegal school that teaches trades to 12 year olds and not the sanctioned classes?

Lebron sucks but y’all as legit as mentally fragile as orange man bad people

Lebron and trump need to be studied to understand how they can make adult human beings turn into emotional pudding
This post was edited on 7/29/23 at 9:52 am
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44231 posts
Posted on 7/29/23 at 9:53 am to
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Lol you don’t think 30% of an entire schools kids being special Ed is over the top?


For an inner city school…

No.


And, depending on how close the suburb is to the city…

No.


Lastly, “gifted” also falls under the SPED umbrella.

This post was edited on 7/29/23 at 9:56 am
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
39415 posts
Posted on 7/29/23 at 10:00 am to
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There’s an article from the New York Times in 2019 that talks about how far behind a lot of these kids started compared to others.


I volunteered at an inner city school in Los Angeles for University credit in the 90s.

Classes were taught in BOTH English and Spanish until the 6th grade because the teachers said learning English was secondary to learning Math which had to be taught in Spanish because that's all the kids knew and spoke at home.

In 6th grade they were just starting their times tables. That's 11-12 years old.

While most learn it in 2nd or 3rd grade.

It was abysmal and the teachers said parents rarely showed up for teacher-parent conferences out of fear and schooling was treated as simply daycare and free lunches.

When your family would rather you start working as a kid and parents have no education themselves, what chance do the kids have?
Posted by The Truth 34
Chavez Ravine
Member since May 2010
41777 posts
Posted on 7/29/23 at 10:02 am to
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They're all probably still trying to get past the first few pages of a book


Best post of the thread
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74849 posts
Posted on 7/29/23 at 10:07 am to
classic centrist take. love it.

needs a touch more pompous attitude tho. just a touch. just to let everyone know you’re better than them without taking a side
This post was edited on 7/29/23 at 10:11 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299260 posts
Posted on 7/29/23 at 10:08 am to
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Look, I like to dunk on LeBron James any chance I get, but this isn’t it. Those kids could be getting world class education and it wouldn’t matter.


Why is money being wasted on them?
Posted by G The Tiger Fan
Member since Apr 2015
116930 posts
Posted on 7/29/23 at 10:23 am to
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This fall's class of eighth graders at the I Promise School hasn't had a single student pass the state's math test since the group was in the third grade.

"Not one? In three years?" Akron Public Schools board member Valerie McKitrick asked after that data point was presented to the board earlier this week.
8th graders minus three years of no one passing equals third grade?

8 - 3 = 3?

I think I see part of the problem.
Posted by Boodis Man
Member since Sep 2020
8368 posts
Posted on 7/29/23 at 10:42 am to
so i assume the other grades are passing tests then? i don't see the problem
Posted by Hoops
LA
Member since Jan 2013
8249 posts
Posted on 7/29/23 at 10:51 am to
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Those kids could be getting world class education and it wouldn’t matter. You literally have to be a functioning retard to get accepted into that school


So what you are saying is for a certain portion of the population throwing money at the problem won’t fix it?
Posted by Glorious
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
26346 posts
Posted on 7/29/23 at 10:59 am to
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It’s a school with filled with the worst kids from the surrounding areas, what do you expect?

Look, I like to dunk on LeBron James any chance I get, but this isn’t it. Those kids could be getting world class education and it wouldn’t matter. You literally have to be a functioning retard to get accepted into that school


You’re getting downvoted and I’m not sure why. Success in school almost always starts in the home
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
39215 posts
Posted on 7/29/23 at 11:05 am to
Damn. Just read the replies to my post

LeBron is a POS but my point is these kids were already in terrible situations and going to a school with LeBrons name on it won’t change their situation

It all starts at home and the reason these kids are there is because their home life sucks
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
39215 posts
Posted on 7/29/23 at 11:05 am to
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So what you are saying is for a certain portion of the population throwing money at the problem won’t fix it?


Yes
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
39215 posts
Posted on 7/29/23 at 11:06 am to
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Why is money being wasted on them


Not sure. Probably a publicity thing for LeBron and it’s a major tax write off
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
39215 posts
Posted on 7/29/23 at 11:08 am to
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Then get them to focus on trades rather than failing math class


I agree

It will never happen, but at some point there needs to be a fork in the road and certain students need to be trained in valuable life skills rather than algebra and beowulf
Posted by 21JumpStreet
Member since Jul 2012
14895 posts
Posted on 7/29/23 at 12:13 pm to
you are miserable
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