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re: Not a fan of College Football Analysts lumping in the "Big 10 and SEC" as equal

Posted on 6/28/25 at 2:35 pm to
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
42744 posts
Posted on 6/28/25 at 2:35 pm to
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Ya think Indiana would beat a team from the SEC that missed tbe playoffs?


Did you read my entire post? It's not that long.
Posted by evil cockroach
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 6/28/25 at 2:43 pm to
Way more eye balls on the Big10 compared to the SEC . I would easily consider the SEC and Big10 co-equals in terms of football.
Posted by lsufanva
sandston virginia
Member since Aug 2009
13366 posts
Posted on 6/28/25 at 3:53 pm to
In terms of profitability and influence on the sports direction, they are equal. Never forget covid and the influence the Big Ten had in that fiasco. Politically they are more powerful than the SEC. The SEC has all the talent surrounding it and the aura. It balances out

No one cares about the last 20 years, they care about the past 2. Big Tens value is at an all time high.
Posted by holdmuh keystonelite
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 6/28/25 at 3:58 pm to
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Posted by ChestRockwell
In the heart of horse country
Member since Jul 2021
7041 posts
Posted on 6/28/25 at 4:40 pm to
Yes i did. Schedule cupcakes and get rewarded. Thats why the B10 has won back to back. SEC Schedule is a war of attrition. Its really a gauntlet playing Rutgers and Maryland
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
42744 posts
Posted on 6/28/25 at 5:07 pm to
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SEC Schedule is a war of attrition. Its really a gauntlet playing Rutgers and Maryland



What would be another way to say that?

maybe something like

quote:

the SEC is still a better conference top to bottom, but the real difference comes in with the lower half of the conference. The top Big10 and SEC teams are fairly comparable IMO, but the SEC teams have a harder path, typically.
Posted by RunningJacket
Member since Dec 2008
674 posts
Posted on 6/28/25 at 5:35 pm to
Listen, I’m a southern football guy. A lifer. And I love the traditions and have always rooted for southern teams over northern teams. But many of you SEC guys have been totally manipulated by ESPN. They have completely warped your way of thinking. This narrative that the SEC is so deep and they beat each other up is just silly and not reality. I watch every game every week.

You bring up Rutgers and Maryland but stick your head in the sand when it comes to the non-relevant teams in the SEC, South Carolina, Vandy, Auburn, Miss St, Ole Miss, Kentucky, Missouri, Florida, and A&M have done nothing in a decade and could easily be called Indiana, NC State, Purdue, GT, etc.

The pre-season polls have warped your view and many of you can’t step outside your bubble to see your own bias. Look at the last 2 seasons. Like the past 20 years, the polls over rank just about every SEC team except Bama and UGA who deserve their top 4 rankings. And then at the end where are these teams? They weren’t there. What does that tell you. We no longer have an eyeball test because playoffs are played on the field and we see it. Now, could the SEC have all 4 teams in the Final 4? Sure. But the talent disparity is over due to NIL. When Vandy beats Bama and it takes UGA 8 overtimes to beat lowly GT you know the entire sport has changed due to everyone now able to bagman players.
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
38285 posts
Posted on 6/28/25 at 5:40 pm to
Yeah Oregon never paid anyone
Posted by cascadia
Georgia
Member since Jan 2014
2532 posts
Posted on 6/28/25 at 6:19 pm to
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NIL became legal in 2021. SEC and B1G each have 2 nattys since then


For those that are too slow to follow: now that teams are able to catch up on paying players and we are no longer stuck with grandfathered teams the sec hasn’t won anything
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41480 posts
Posted on 6/28/25 at 6:25 pm to
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No program building.


The transfer portal has gotten significantly weaker in terms of talent each year. Colleges are getting better at paying for their own, homegrown players
Posted by ChestRockwell
In the heart of horse country
Member since Jul 2021
7041 posts
Posted on 6/28/25 at 6:35 pm to
Nobody on this earth has the ability to watch every game every week. Its mathematically impossible unless you are unemployed and do nothing else. The committee doesn't even do that. All I'm saying is the B10 has been weak for years and never has been through an SEC Schedule week after week. Not saying Ohio St isn't any good. Simply saying they have always had an easier path , especially guys being healthy. Big difference , for example, you're LSU, playing UGA, Bama, and Texas all in one month, getting one at home during that time. As opposed to playing Michigan St, Northwestern, and Purdue all at home or 2/3. Always has been an advantage for them. It isn't their fault. The playoffs should've stayed at 4. Plus, nobody is watching SMU at Penn St or something.
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
25047 posts
Posted on 6/28/25 at 7:25 pm to
Indiana beat Michigan last season…and Michigan beat Bama in a bowl game and beat OSU

So I certainly think Indiana could have hung with Bama and LSU last season. LSU lost to USC last season who finished 4-5 in the B1G

Do you people even watch games or just say “SEC better”
Posted by Deplorableinohio
Member since Dec 2018
7228 posts
Posted on 6/28/25 at 7:51 pm to
SEC can’t play north of the Mason-Dixon Line after 10/1.
Posted by RunningJacket
Member since Dec 2008
674 posts
Posted on 6/28/25 at 7:56 pm to
Again, to say the SEC has a tougher road when they are the ones holding out so they can play more Georgia Southern’s is laughable. As the previous poster just mentioned - Indiana (who gets no credit on this board) beat Michigan and then Michigan beat Bama. Explain that one? You should be saying, the middle pack of the BIG is getting stronger but instead you laugh at Michigan. But when Vandy beats Bama instead of laughing at Bama you say, see how strong the SEC is.

Like I said, you have allowed ESPN and their money pandering ways to the Finebaum type fanbases create your bias. Many of you are like CNN fans who can’t see your biases. As the data year over year comes in with the expanded playoffs it will be become even clearer how bad the preseason polling was that influenced the entire BCS and 4 team era. How many times have we seen SEC teams go 3-2 yet are still ranked in early October while 5-0 others weren’t all because of the preseason polls.

And none of this is about me trying to be proven right or wrong. It’s all statistics and college football was the last major sport to use a system that was statistically biased whcih is why the sport has been professional wrestling, Now that people with brains run the sport you’ll see future statistics that will show the truth.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 6/28/25 at 8:02 pm to
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Wrong, huge ratings decline for football.

Nice job cherry picking the first year of a new and expanded playoff format that was mismanaged in scheduling lol
Posted by StansberryRules
Member since Aug 2024
4385 posts
Posted on 6/28/25 at 8:07 pm to
The NIL era will buoy the Big Ten a lot. The SEC recruiting edge has been neutralized.

Also, as the very first response says, college football is effectively dead. Whatever the sport is nowadays is wearing its skin suit.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 6/28/25 at 8:10 pm to
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SEC can’t play north of the Mason-Dixon Line after 10/1.

I’m sure that sample size is huge
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
53783 posts
Posted on 6/28/25 at 8:11 pm to
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Nobody on this earth has the ability to watch every game every week. Its mathematically impossible unless you are unemployed and do nothing else. The committee doesn't even do that.


We just ask that they watch the games that matter
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60798 posts
Posted on 6/28/25 at 8:21 pm to
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. Big difference , for example, you're LSU, playing UGA, Bama, and Texas all in one month


When has this happened?

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As opposed to playing Michigan St, Northwestern, and Purdue all at home or 2/3. Always has been an advantage for them


I love how you make extreme examples in both directions. Ole played a 5 game stretch of Kentucky So Carolina LSU Oklahoma and Arkansas.


Bama last year lost to Vandy and Oklahoma, Vandy was the week after UGA but OU was after the destroyed LSU and then Mercer

It’s not a “guantlet” that cost those teams it was losing to shitty teams
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
53783 posts
Posted on 6/28/25 at 8:51 pm to
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It’s not a “guantlet” that cost those teams it was losing to shitty teams
youd have a point if every game was an independent occurrence and the players weren’t human

But injuries add up though. Trap games are a thing, as well as looking ahead
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