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re: Non Playoff Bowl games have become meaningless.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 9:16 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Posted on 12/14/22 at 9:16 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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and CFB to you is MNC or you suck.
Well we are on a SEC message board
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Posted on 12/14/22 at 9:31 pm to chalmetteowl
1. I'm still watching the bowls because I like football but the bowls as we once knew them are dead.
2. NYD used to be awesome. Bowls used to matter, even the next tier bowls behind the Rose, Sugar, Orange, Cotton, and Fiesta.
3. We can make more post season games meaningful again through playoff expansion. 12 team playoff and those games is the modern day equivalent of bowl season in the 1980s.
2. NYD used to be awesome. Bowls used to matter, even the next tier bowls behind the Rose, Sugar, Orange, Cotton, and Fiesta.
3. We can make more post season games meaningful again through playoff expansion. 12 team playoff and those games is the modern day equivalent of bowl season in the 1980s.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 9:40 pm to eugene1928LSU
Big deal to me. I get to watch the Tigers one more time.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 9:48 pm to eugene1928LSU
More home playoff games is how to make the post season better. Just leave the bowls behind and only make the championship a neutral game.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 9:59 pm to eugene1928LSU
Been that way for 15 years.
Posted on 12/15/22 at 6:56 am to eugene1928LSU
It’s not just the playoffs fault. Before the playoffs they expanded to too many bowl games. The playoffs were the final nail in the coffin.
I really liked the BCS era. It wasn’t playoffs or bust and bowls were fun to watch. Some great matchups in the independence bowl, holiday bowl, gator bowl, etc. Now kids sit out or transfer or don’t show up because they missed the playoffs. It’s sad really.
I really liked the BCS era. It wasn’t playoffs or bust and bowls were fun to watch. Some great matchups in the independence bowl, holiday bowl, gator bowl, etc. Now kids sit out or transfer or don’t show up because they missed the playoffs. It’s sad really.
Posted on 12/15/22 at 7:01 am to eugene1928LSU
Where you been?
Posted on 12/15/22 at 7:12 am to MetroAtlantaGatorFan
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It was like that before the 90s though.
Exactly. The revisionism of “in the old days we were just happy to win our conference” is such garbage.
Posted on 12/15/22 at 8:39 am to Allthatfades
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A bowl used to be a big deal. A New Year’s Day bowl, back when they actually played them on New Year’s Day, used to be a really big deal
Used to be when College football was still an "amateur sport". Once ESPN started seeing dollars signs by exploiting the college game, and changing the face of college football, those Bowl Games became meaningless. Probably the last 20 years or so.
Also there used to be a limited number of bowls and it was a good season just to make one. Then bowl games doubled because everyone wanted a piece of the pie. Now you have teams that go 6-6 or 5-7 make bowl games. I remember when you went 7-4 you weren't guaranteed a bowl game.
Now the past few years we see more and more of a teams best players sit out bowl games to prepare for the draft. Also you have players entering the portal before a teams bowl game so you have 2nd and 3rd string players starting in a bowl game.
Yes, they are meaningless if you're honest.
Posted on 12/15/22 at 8:42 am to eugene1928LSU
Bowl season was obsolete as soon as the BCS was formed.
Posted on 12/15/22 at 8:45 am to crewdepoo
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the only reason teams go is for the money.
Fify
Posted on 12/15/22 at 8:55 am to Odysseus32
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If I'm being honest, I don't dislike it that much. As I get older, I realize my wife will support me no matter what, but by December her football nerves are running thin.
We might be married to the same lady. My wife hates football and by this time, she's had enough.
Posted on 12/15/22 at 9:37 am to eugene1928LSU
They only don’t matter to people who don’t like competition or have a sense of pride!
Posted on 12/15/22 at 9:52 am to GeauxHouston
So under the pre-BCS system, you get something like this:
Rose: Michigan v. Utah
Sugar: Georgia v. Ohio State
Orange: Kansas State (Big 8) v. Tennessee
Cotton: TCU (SWC) v. Bama
Fiesta: USC v. Penn State or Syracuse (Big East autobid)
Citrus: Clemson v. Penn State
More possibilities for chaos, but do those really get you all that excited?
And that's all assuming some bowl committee didn't lose it mind an invite Ole Miss or LSU or Notre Dame on Nov. 1st with three games still to play.
Rose: Michigan v. Utah
Sugar: Georgia v. Ohio State
Orange: Kansas State (Big 8) v. Tennessee
Cotton: TCU (SWC) v. Bama
Fiesta: USC v. Penn State or Syracuse (Big East autobid)
Citrus: Clemson v. Penn State
More possibilities for chaos, but do those really get you all that excited?
And that's all assuming some bowl committee didn't lose it mind an invite Ole Miss or LSU or Notre Dame on Nov. 1st with three games still to play.
This post was edited on 12/15/22 at 9:55 am
Posted on 12/15/22 at 10:44 am to NewBR
I doubt TCU would be in the Cotton. It wasn't part of the Bowl Alliance (which was pre-BCS) and the SWC dissolved after the 95 season. They'd be in the Fiesta or Sugar.
It would be UGA vs TCU in the Orange (which was the designated Bowl Alliance "title" game in 97). But would only be a title game for UGA unless Michigan had already lost in the Rose.
It would be UGA vs TCU in the Orange (which was the designated Bowl Alliance "title" game in 97). But would only be a title game for UGA unless Michigan had already lost in the Rose.
This post was edited on 12/15/22 at 10:48 am
Posted on 12/15/22 at 10:52 am to eugene1928LSU
Whether or not these games are meaningful is subjective, so that's whatever. The real issue to me is teams being able to field adequate rosters in these games.
I think you could mostly fix that by doing away with the early signing period and moving the portal window till after the season ends. That would also lessen the need for coaching decisions to be made so early and hopefully we'd get less coaches bailing on their teams before the season ends, or getting fired in October. In either case it basically ruins the whole season for the kids.
I think you could mostly fix that by doing away with the early signing period and moving the portal window till after the season ends. That would also lessen the need for coaching decisions to be made so early and hopefully we'd get less coaches bailing on their teams before the season ends, or getting fired in October. In either case it basically ruins the whole season for the kids.
Posted on 12/15/22 at 10:59 am to eugene1928LSU
I think they've always been meaningless, we just stopped pretending that they actually mean something besides a fun exhibition mathch.
This post was edited on 12/15/22 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 12/15/22 at 11:24 am to eugene1928LSU
I'm going to presume that your post is because of transfers and opt outs. Now I am going to tell you why bowl games are still meaningful.
1) 15 more practices and a lot of guys getting 1st team reps a year early.
2) Valuable game experience for those players and game film on them.
3) More revenue.
IOW, bowl practices and the game itself are very valuable to the teams. You just don't like it as a fan.
1) 15 more practices and a lot of guys getting 1st team reps a year early.
2) Valuable game experience for those players and game film on them.
3) More revenue.
IOW, bowl practices and the game itself are very valuable to the teams. You just don't like it as a fan.
Posted on 12/15/22 at 12:07 pm to eugene1928LSU
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Non Playoff Bowl games have become meaningless.
Meaningless to who? You? I’m sure they mean something to the majority of players and fans, even if they aren’t competing for a national title. LSU fans are the fricking worst.
Posted on 12/15/22 at 5:31 pm to eugene1928LSU
quote:Yeah, and wait until players start opting out of regular season games because their school is mathematically eliminated from the 12-team playoff.
Non Playoff Bowl games have become meaningless.
You geniuses will surmise that the solution is to expand the playoffs to 24 teams.
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