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re: No charges filed against Jameis Winston
Posted on 12/4/13 at 6:26 pm to YStar
Posted on 12/4/13 at 6:26 pm to YStar
quote:Link?
get intimidated by police to drop the case
just b/c the police warned her that pursuing these charges would be difficult that means intimidation? How do u know he wasn't on her side and trying to protect her aginst a tough road to hold? Neither of us know quote:Link?
signs of rough behavior from pictoral evidence
quote:It's America dude, he already is innocent. The DA's job is to prove otherwise.
Let him prove he is innocent.
You have little to none cred left in this thread.
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Posted on 12/4/13 at 6:27 pm to lsuroadie
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lsuroadie
Finally, a voice of reason.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 6:28 pm to the808bass
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Is that different than you saying he didn't do it without knowing any more than anyone else? It's not. I'm going to assume you're under 25 and give you a pass.
I maintained throughout the entire thread that many posters were throwing him under the bus while only hearing one side of the story. Please find one post where I said he's innocent.
This post was edited on 12/4/13 at 6:29 pm
Posted on 12/4/13 at 6:30 pm to YStar
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I would also hope the University and the staff distance themselves if he refuses to speak.
Come on man, Alabama and a large majority of it's fans would support him in an identical situation. How do we know that Winston didn't sit down with Jimbo and explain him everything that went down that night. Odds are this happened, and that's where Jimbo is putting his confidence in JW. There is nothing wrong with supporting your guy in a situation like this. I support JW but I've said multiple times that he could be guilty because I don't know the facts. I only know Jameis Winston from a few interviews on tv/internet, so I'm not willing to claim I know the guy and I'm willing to defend him to the death. I can guarantee you that Alabama, Saban, and most fans would support their guy in a similar situation.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 6:30 pm to lsuroadie
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Link? just b/c the police warned her that pursuing these charges would be difficult that means intimidation? How do u know he wasn't on her side and trying to protect her aginst a tough road to hold? Neither of us know
The police actually have protocol on this. They have liaisons who are separate from the police investigators for this very purpose. And that person should have told the accuser. Not the investigator. TPD sucks. And there's no way around that here.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 6:31 pm to TheOcean
quote:This thread has proved to me just how important our legal system is. Many people in here were ready to lock him up based on TMZ and the accusers story alone
I maintained throughout the entire thread that many posters were throwing him under the bus while only hearing one side of the story. Please find one post where I said he's innocent.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 6:33 pm to TheOcean
You had no problem throwing the accuser under the bus based on Twitter rumors. You can't take the moral high road now. You exited long ago.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 6:34 pm to the808bass
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The police actually have protocol on this. They have liaisons who are separate from the police investigators for this very purpose. And that person should have told the accuser. Not the investigator. TPD sucks. And there's no way around that here.
Not accurate. The link I provided from a former Tallahassee prosecutor under Meggs said what the detective did here is common practice.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 6:35 pm to the808bass
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You had no problem throwing the accuser under the bus based on Twitter rumors. You can't take the moral high road now. You exited long ago.
Where did I post twitter rumors?
Posted on 12/4/13 at 6:36 pm to TheOcean
It may be common practice for TPD. It shouldn't be. An investigator shouldn't give any appearance of coercion in the pursuit of charges by the accuser. That's obvious to anyone.
This post was edited on 12/4/13 at 6:39 pm
Posted on 12/4/13 at 6:38 pm to TheOcean
FSU leak rumors. People close to family rumors. Twitter sources. You used them all. Anyone who read the thread knows.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 6:38 pm to lsupride87
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Many people in here were ready to lock him up based on TMZ and the accusers story alone
Pretty sad. Although we'll find out for sure tomorrow, nothing is a guarantee. But even if this goes to court, most prosecutors have said this case is DOA
Posted on 12/4/13 at 6:38 pm to Archie Bengal Bunker
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Archie Bengal Bunker
It's really not that difficult. I don't think any of us could stand here and make a rational decision on what little facts have come out.
It amazes me that when it became public that the investigator told her that these allegations would have a rough road to hold most went right to the intimidation card...whereas I could imagine a detective, maybe with daughters of his own, sitting her down and in a fatherly way telling her if we proceed with this case it is going to be very tough on you young lady and you're going to have to stand by your convictions b/c this is a FB town.
We just don't know, but amazing how a lynch mob mentality comes to bare.
BTW, I have 2 daughters, if the kid raped her, put his arse in jail.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 6:40 pm to the808bass
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It may be common practice for TPD. It shouldn't be. An investigator shouldn't give any appearance of coercion in the pursuit of charges by the accused. That's obvious to anyone.
Not true. Anytime you go to the police and accuse someone, their first response should be to ask you if you're 100% sure because of the backlash you will receive if you're not positive. It's a very common response.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 6:40 pm to YStar
quote:frick you. This is America
Let him prove he is innocent
Posted on 12/4/13 at 6:41 pm to the808bass
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nd that person should have told the accuser.
Let's just skip the fact that the person allegedly told this was an attorney, not the accuser. An attorney who was a former prosecutor, an attorney who has had no problem voicing her opinion in the media, an attorney who is advertised as aggressive and acting like a bulldog...
Yet, that same attorney with prosecution experience didn't think the comments were alarming until 10 months later. And the entire time after the alleged comments were made this attorney with prosecution experience was thinking that the investigation was not moving forward because TPD didn't want to tip off the named suspect that he was the suspect.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 6:41 pm to the808bass
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It may be common practice for TPD. It shouldn't be. An investigator shouldn't give any appearance of coercion in the pursuit of charges by the accused. That's obvious to anyone.
There was a quote found from Meggs in 2003 stating something along the lines of "I don't see anything wrong with telling an accuser to be sure of these claims because it may effect the lives of many people, including the person accused"
We don't know in what manner this was said
Posted on 12/4/13 at 6:41 pm to TC16
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Come on man, Alabama and a large majority of it's fans would support him in an identical situation.
Does that make it right? I wouldn't and I wouldn't make a mockery of rape like TheOcean has throughout the thread.
quote:
How do we know that Winston didn't sit down with Jimbo and explain him everything that went down that night.
How do you know he isn't lying? Due to his friends backing him, as if they wouldn't.
My point is for an alleged rape victim who immediately reported the occurrence to not even get the chance to have her case heard in court, specifically due to how things were handled by the police who were bias? How is this okay?
Imagine that happening to one of your loved ones. If this or something close to this really did occur this is a travesty, not something to mock and laugh about. Only someone sick in the head would.
This post was edited on 12/4/13 at 6:45 pm
Posted on 12/4/13 at 6:43 pm to YStar
You lost all credibility when you said he should have to prove he is innocent.
It's time to stop posting.
It's time to stop posting.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 6:44 pm to the808bass
quote:
It may be common practice for TPD. It shouldn't be. An investigator shouldn't give any appearance of coercion in the pursuit of charges by the accuser. That's obvious to anyone.
Advising someone =/= coercion. In fact, I'm pretty sure it is common practice in most jurisdictions, although I can't find a link.
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