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re: No charges filed against Jameis Winston
Posted on 11/27/13 at 2:47 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
Posted on 11/27/13 at 2:47 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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Anyone else think a lot of voters will still not vote for him, just because they don't want him to get charged after winning it.
I went home for lunch today and ESPN was saying that maybe 20% of voters were leaving him off their hypothetical ballots as of today. They still had him at #1 though. JW attorney pushing for a decision on whether to charge him so voters can move on one way or the other.
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Posted on 11/27/13 at 2:49 pm to Maxx99
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ESPN was saying that maybe 20% of voters
Polling only 5 voters, I believe.
Posted on 11/27/13 at 2:49 pm to OnTheBrink
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According to public records, Angulo is a Tallahassee native who obtained his Bachelor of Science in criminology from FSU in August of 1998. He also joined an Internet-based group supporting Florida State University football. He was a member of that group as recently as the afternoon of Oct. 20. Officer Angulo's social media profile has since been removed.
His mother is a current member of "The Extra Point Club," which according to their website, is "a group of women whose common interest is actively supporting FSU Athletics."
The Facebook page of Angulo's sister indicates she obtained her degree in mathematics education from Florida State in 1999 and joined at least one fan group supporting Florida State athletics. Her husband indicates he attended Tallahassee Community College, but has joined several fan groups supporting Florida State athletics and has multiple pictures on his account related to FSU athletics.
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And Angulo isn't the only officer on the Tallahassee Police Department's staff who has publicly illustrated his support for Florida State athletics. Multiple members of Angulo's personal network also work for the police force and have indicated a connection to FSU through their social media accounts.
Officer Andy Meresse: Accounts indicate he obtained his education at FSU and show several pictures where he is wearing FSU paraphernalia. His profile banner picture is of FSU players hoisting their helmets into the sky. •
Officer Matt Smidt: Accounts indicate he studied criminology at FSU. He has several pictures in FSU paraphernalia and has joined multiple Internet-based Florida State athletics fan clubs. •
Officer Rhonda Kerce: She is wearing a Florida State football jersey in her profile banner picture. •
Officer Russell Huston: He is wearing a Jameis Winston jersey in his profile picture. Also posted is another picture of him wearing a grey Florida State T-shirt. •
Officer Tony Carlson: Indicates he studied at Florida State. Is a fan of Florida State football and Rivals' Warchant.com, a popular Florida State athletics website. •
Officer Stephen Vaughn: Indicates he studied at Florida State. Is a fan of "Florida State Seminoles." Five other TPD officers in Angulo's network indicated they obtained their education at Florida State University.
Funny as frick. This can't be real life.
Posted on 11/27/13 at 2:52 pm to crimsonsaint
Officers can't publicly support a sports team?
I must be the only one taking crazy pills. Lock Winston up. The conspiracy is underway.
I must be the only one taking crazy pills. Lock Winston up. The conspiracy is underway.
Posted on 11/27/13 at 2:53 pm to Majin Buu
In my mind there are only two answers that make sense:
1) They already know they aren't going to charge him and are putting on face for the public to male it look like they really studied the evidence and did everything they could for the alleged victim.
2) They already know they are going to charge him and they are trying to avoid an even bigger backlash by people in Tallahassee and FSU fans. They'll let him him finish his football season/career with or without a BCS game appearence and then charge him.
1) They already know they aren't going to charge him and are putting on face for the public to male it look like they really studied the evidence and did everything they could for the alleged victim.
2) They already know they are going to charge him and they are trying to avoid an even bigger backlash by people in Tallahassee and FSU fans. They'll let him him finish his football season/career with or without a BCS game appearence and then charge him.
Posted on 11/27/13 at 2:57 pm to Othello
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In my mind there are only two answers that make sense:
1) They already know they aren't going to charge him and are putting on face for the public to male it look like they really studied the evidence and did everything they could for the alleged victim.
2) They already know they are going to charge him and they are trying to avoid an even bigger backlash by people in Tallahassee and FSU fans. They'll let him him finish his football season/career with or without a BCS game appearence and then charge him.
My first thought if they ARENT going to charge him...
They are punishing him by making him miss out on the Heisman. They dont have enough to charge him...but there is enough there where they feel like he should use this as a real learning lesson (Missing out on awards by putting yourself in that situation)
However, to your points. I agree with the 1st one. The 2nd one? Eh...
I'd be pretty upset if they were convinced they are going to charge him....and still let him played 2 or 3 more games. Get it over with.
Posted on 11/27/13 at 3:01 pm to Othello
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2) They already know they are going to charge him and they are trying to avoid an even bigger backlash by people in Tallahassee and FSU fans. They'll let him him finish his football season/career with or without a BCS game appearence and then charge him.
The fallout from delaying RAPE charges so someone can finish the football season would be unprecedented.
Posted on 11/27/13 at 3:02 pm to tiger2012
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News Release: Tallahassee Police Department
The Tallahassee Police Department is releasing a timeline regarding the recent case which has received national media attention.
Interim Police Chief Tom Coe said “As we have previously stated, this is an active investigation and we are not going to discuss details that could possibly impact this case. At the same time, there have been process questions that I want to respond to because I believe they demonstrate TPD's professionalism and the investigative processes of a sexual battery case.”
The following is a summary of the investigative steps, which is the process we follow in this type of case:
•December 7, 2012: The Tallahassee Police Department (TPD) responds to a sexual battery case referred by the Florida State University Police Department because the alleged incident occurred off campus. TPD transports the victim to the hospital for treatment and evidence is collected including a sexual assault kit. An investigator responds to the hospital and interviews the victim.
•December 7, 2012: An initial police report is filed. Contact is made with an assistant state attorney related to obtaining cell phone records, although no potential suspect had yet been identified.
•December 7, 2012 to January 10, 2013: Additional investigative follow up is conducted, including witness interviews, pursuing investigative leads, issuing a court order and a search warrant.
•January 10, 2013: The victim calls the investigator and identifies a suspect by name and a meeting is scheduled with the victim.
•January 11, 2013: An attorney contacts TPD representing the victim and indicates all future contact will be through her and the meeting with the victim does not occur.
•The week of January 14th, 2013: TPD investigator makes contact with the suspect and requests an interview.
•January 15, 2013: Based upon now having a named suspect, all applicable evidence is sent to Florida Department of Law Enforcement (FDLE) for processing.
•January 23, 2013: The potential suspect's attorney tells TPD his client declined to be interviewed.
•On February 11, 2013: A supplemental police report is filed indicating the case is open but inactive and will be further pursued if the victim decides to pursue charges.
•February 22 & March 29, 2013: Results received from the FDLE Toxicology Section are received, which are relayed to the victim's attorney. The victim's attorney stated she would review the findings with her client and contact the investigator if she wished to pursue the case further.
•August 27, 2013: FDLE provides the analysis of the sexual assault kit to TPD.
“Sexual Battery cases are some of the most difficult crimes to investigate as they are unique and personal in nature. TPD will continue to work in coordination with the State Attorney's office in order to ensure justice is served in this case" said Chief Coe.
Posted on 11/27/13 at 3:09 pm to tiger2012
The TPD has already shown signs of a possible cover-up. I don't think it's a huge stretch to say that an FSU grad DA who had Warrick's charges of grand theft dropped to shoplifting so that he could win the Heisman and lead FSU to the BCS titlewould delay things a bit so that the football team could get through the end of its schedule.
This post was edited on 11/27/13 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 11/27/13 at 3:11 pm to Rittdog
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•August 27, 2013: FDLE provides the analysis of the sexual assault kit to TPD.
Ok, this is what I don't understand, it's just kinda hanging out there...what did the analysis indicate? Hello? Anyone there?
Posted on 11/27/13 at 3:12 pm to Othello
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The TPD has already shown signs of a possible cover-up. I don't think it's a huge stretch to say that an FSU grad DA who had Warrick's charges of grand theft dropped to shoplifting so that he could win the Heisman and lead FSU to the BCS titlewould delay things a bit so that the football team could get through the end of its schedule.
Wut? Warrick never won the Heisman and didn't have a chance after the charges were filed. Where do you gumps come up with this bullshite?
Posted on 11/27/13 at 3:14 pm to Crimson1st
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what did the analysis indicate? Hello? Anyone there?
Probably like Ryan Braun's drug test, something wasn't handled right therefore the test is void.
Posted on 11/27/13 at 3:15 pm to TheOcean
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Wut? Warrick never won the Heisman and didn't have a chance after the charges were filed. Where do you gumps come up with this bullshite?
Never was invited.
Posted on 11/27/13 at 3:15 pm to Crimson1st
Don't know the answer to that.
Although it may have nothing to do with the actual facts of the case, I do find it interesting how this week more Heisman voters are saying they won't put him on the ballot at all but last week most of the voters seemed indifferent to the accusations.
Although it may have nothing to do with the actual facts of the case, I do find it interesting how this week more Heisman voters are saying they won't put him on the ballot at all but last week most of the voters seemed indifferent to the accusations.
Posted on 11/27/13 at 3:17 pm to TheOcean
Still got it dropped to shoplifting and led them to the BCS title. I was wrong about the Heisman but you dodged the more important part.
Also get it in your fsu heads, Bama wants to play against FSU at their best just like we wanted to play against JFF.
Also get it in your fsu heads, Bama wants to play against FSU at their best just like we wanted to play against JFF.
This post was edited on 11/27/13 at 3:18 pm
Posted on 11/27/13 at 3:17 pm to MontyFranklyn
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Well we all know that and we all know why he isn't being charged and possibly never will be. What is so disturbing to me is that if it were just an ordinary black student, the same people trying to protect Winston would be leading a lynch mob to murder that student.
Absolute truth.
Posted on 11/27/13 at 3:18 pm to Othello
He was suspended for two games. Should he have been suspended for the entire season? Again, spewing bullshite
This post was edited on 11/27/13 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 11/27/13 at 3:19 pm to OnTheBrink
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Probably like Ryan Braun's drug test, something wasn't handled right therefore the test is void.
I mean surely there is something else that should clarify things with that test and the results. If your scenario is what happened, why not add that to the timeline? Just stating that the results came back in August, leaving it hanging there, and not adding some more context to it is very odd in my book. Maybe I am just missing something...my CRS is striking me hard lately!
Posted on 11/27/13 at 3:22 pm to Rittdog
There are a couple of issues with that timeline. August 27th the FDLE provides analysis of a sexual assault kit on an inactive investigation being the chief among them.
Posted on 11/27/13 at 3:23 pm to TheOcean
The DA dropped the charge to a much lesser crime but keep on dodging.
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