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re: No charges filed against Jameis Winston
Posted on 11/27/13 at 10:11 am to TheOcean
Posted on 11/27/13 at 10:11 am to TheOcean
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Small SAO with other cases on the docket.
All that's left is the e-records, which should only take a max of 4 or 5 days after the warrants are issued.
Ocean, let's get real for a minute. We've actually had an "ocean" of claims by FSU fans who claim to be in the know, day in and day out it seems, that these charges are phony baloney and that they will be dropped Montueswethursday. None of this insider info comes to fruition however. These contrary pontifications being made by others on here, which are very plausible, are then called out by you. How can you do that when from how it appears you are paddling in the same boat with what appears to be no more than suppositions on your part? Not flaming you, I just want to see your rationale for coming down so hard on others who aren't even making claims with so called "insider info" just pragmatic suspicions from how this is actually playing out...
This post was edited on 11/27/13 at 10:13 am
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Posted on 11/27/13 at 10:14 am to Crimson1st
It's a high profile case. One of the biggest Meggs has dealt with. There's a lot on the line not only for his reputation, but the person he's been grooming to take his spot.
If he drops the case, there's going to be a ton of media scrutiny and he knows it. He's just doing everything he can to dot the is and cross the ts.
Tallahasse is a small town and there are plenty of people in the know. Obviously no one other than Meggs knows for sure whether charges will be brought.
If he drops the case, there's going to be a ton of media scrutiny and he knows it. He's just doing everything he can to dot the is and cross the ts.
Tallahasse is a small town and there are plenty of people in the know. Obviously no one other than Meggs knows for sure whether charges will be brought.
This post was edited on 11/27/13 at 10:17 am
Posted on 11/27/13 at 10:19 am to TheOcean
Didn't you say yesterday that he told the family or a family friend there would be no charges?
Eta your post:
Source close to the Winston family just confirmed there won't be any charges, but not sure when it will be announced publicly.
You have 0 credibility
Eta your post:
Source close to the Winston family just confirmed there won't be any charges, but not sure when it will be announced publicly.
You have 0 credibility
This post was edited on 11/27/13 at 10:24 am
Posted on 11/27/13 at 10:23 am to Buckeye06
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One of my FSU friends said it was b/c they are still gathering evidence, but couldn't that have been done 10 months ago? Seems odd
Of all the rumors flying around, one certainty is that the DA was only notified the first time of the rape report, for whatever reason, 2 weeks ago.
One supposes that they would have done what they're doing now, however it turns out, 10 months ago if the case had actually been reported to them.
Posted on 11/27/13 at 10:30 am to wm72
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You FSU people are certainly confident considering 90%+ of all rape charges aren't false.
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But I wouldn't blame advocates of victims' rights for feeling defeated right now. If nothing ever comes of this, it only will fuel the misconception that women routinely make false rape claims, when only 2-10 percent of sexual assault reports are false, according to the National Sexual Violence Resource Center.
You FSU people are certainly confident considering 90%+ of all rape charges aren't false.
Posted on 11/27/13 at 10:31 am to EnjoyBoy
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EnjoyBoy
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Posted on 11/25/13 at 6:27 am
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Case is being dropped will be public today.
Posted on 11/27/13 at 10:36 am to OnTheBrink
I personally don't see how Winston isn't charged. If this were happening to anyone else, he would have been charged already. The evidence is very damning.
Posted on 11/27/13 at 10:40 am to alabamabuckeye
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If this were happening to anyone else, he would have been charged already.
THIS, and everyone knows it.
Posted on 11/27/13 at 10:40 am to Rittdog
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1010 XL ?@1010XL 30m
"The news (on Winston) is getting ready to take a turn to benefit Florida State and their fans," @Ballou1010xl
1010 XL ?@1010XL 29m
"I won't say 'shocked,' but I'd be incredibly surprised if there are charges filed against Jameis Winston," @Ballou1010xl
1010 XL ?@1010XL 27m
"I expect this to be dropped Monday or Tuesday and I expect no charges at all to be filed against Jameis Winston," @Ballou1010xl
1010 XL ?@1010XL 26m
"The Winston side of is that there was a relationship before & after (alleged assault) and there are photos to prove that," @Ballou1010xl
Either he's got good sources. Or his credibility will be destroyed forever.
Rick Ballou =
Posted on 11/27/13 at 10:47 am to OnTheBrink
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OnTheBrink
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Or his credibility will be destroyed forever
You have shown this guy's trolling credibility to be top notch!
Posted on 11/27/13 at 10:50 am to alabamabuckeye
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The evidence is very damning.
You've seen all of the evidence?
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If this were happening to anyone else, he would have been charged already.
Isn't it also possible that if this were anyone else and there wasn't enough evidence to file charges, the case would have been dropped by now?
Posted on 11/27/13 at 10:53 am to Crimson1st
You know, I honestly do not care one way or the other in this case, I just hope the truth comes out. But it seems like everyone has "sources", except me. I just want sources so I can be cool on the Tigerdroppings.
Posted on 11/27/13 at 10:54 am to Archie Bengal Bunker
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Isn't it also possible that if this were anyone else and there wasn't enough evidence to file charges, the case would have been dropped by now?
if there was a complaint, a rape kit, matching DNA, and a suspect that refuses to speak with police, then most suspects are going to have been charged and arrested already, especially if we are using a timeline starting at the night of the incident.
Posted on 11/27/13 at 11:00 am to Archie Bengal Bunker
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You've seen all of the evidence?
The amount of evidence out there, DNA, witnesses, rape photos, social medis essentially guarantees that both sides require a day in court to refute the allegations
Meggs deciding to drop it without the use of a grand jury will result in fed involvement, and he knows it
The reason hes not going to the grand jury (leaks) is he knows he has to charge and give each lawyer their day in court
Hes dragging it out so long as to be 'fair' to the rest of the team and their bowl hopes. Its not their fault that they miss this opportunity due to one mans actions
Posted on 11/27/13 at 11:05 am to OnTheBrink
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I just hope the truth comes out. But it seems like everyone has "sources", except me
I hope the truth comes out, that's what I want. I also don't understand why folks want to blame Alabama fans for being blindly pro-accuser. That doesn't make sense, there's really nothing to gain. Most Bama fans I know, including myself, want to play the best. If things play out and Alabama winds up in the NCG, we'd have to play another excellent team whether it's FSU, OSU, WKWU...makes no difference to me.
Plus I don't have "sources" either. Most every "source" I have seen in this matter has been full of what keeps the toilet industry in high demand. There is a clear campaign of attack from one camp, that is obvious so when these stories get floated out. It's a big risk to hitch one's wagon to any given tale at this point in time knowing that there is a concerted effort to skew things in one direction due to the high stakes involved.
This post was edited on 11/27/13 at 11:07 am
Posted on 11/27/13 at 11:11 am to League Champs
Posted on 11/27/13 at 11:58 am to TigerBait1127
Posted on 11/27/13 at 12:34 pm to Archie Bengal Bunker
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Isn't it also possible that if this were anyone else and there wasn't enough evidence to file charges, the case would have been dropped by now?
What makes you think there's not enough evidence? Because the cops didn't even question the suspect?
I'll never be accused of rape, but hypothetically speaking if I were to be accused of rape I'm sure that I'd get a nice interrogation by the cops.
Posted on 11/27/13 at 12:54 pm to crimsonsaint
I'm just saying the media scrutiny on the case could make filing or not filing different than an averge Joe's case. You cant say they are not bringing charges yet just because he is famous. When it could also be that they are not dropping charges yet because of the appearence of impropriety, when they would have dropped them for an average Joe.
I dont know what evidence they have. I feel like if it were as simple as the public evidence of a rape claim and a DNA match, charges would have been brought by now, imo.
Instead, there are two witness affidavits with unknown content from unknown people that are claimed to clear Winston. And I nor you know what other evidence they have or may be waiting on.
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What makes you think there's not enough evidence?
I dont know what evidence they have. I feel like if it were as simple as the public evidence of a rape claim and a DNA match, charges would have been brought by now, imo.
Instead, there are two witness affidavits with unknown content from unknown people that are claimed to clear Winston. And I nor you know what other evidence they have or may be waiting on.
Posted on 11/27/13 at 12:55 pm to League Champs
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Meggs deciding to drop it without the use of a grand jury will result in fed involvement, and he knows it
You keep saying this, on what grounds would the Feds have to get involved?
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