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re: NFL looking into banning Kickoffs
Posted on 12/6/12 at 12:54 pm to Bumble Bee
Posted on 12/6/12 at 12:54 pm to Bumble Bee
I'm more in favor of this rule rather than just letting the other team talk it on the 20-30 yard line.
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Posted on 12/6/12 at 12:56 pm to medtiger
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A team down multiple scores late now has a much better chance of keeping the ball than they did recovering an onside kick.
It would be complete BS and I hope they don't change it, but its not like picking up a 4th a 15 essentially would be drastically easier than converting an onside kick.
Posted on 12/6/12 at 12:58 pm to jacks40
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I'm more in favor of this rule rather than just letting the other team talk it on the 20-30 yard line.
And now the Super Bowl is about to get underway. The players are getting set for the opening 4th down....
Posted on 12/6/12 at 12:58 pm to Bumble Bee
As an added bonus, they'll take full advantage of the new rule by cramming 6 more goddamn commercials down your eyeholes before the next play happens. The NFL is ruining football for me.
Posted on 12/6/12 at 12:59 pm to Backinthe615
The NFL has almost entirely ruined the fun of going to games.
Posted on 12/6/12 at 1:01 pm to Bumble Bee
frick.
you.
Goodell.
you.
Goodell.
Posted on 12/6/12 at 1:01 pm to saintsfan92612
if this were to happen I would 100% never watch another NFL game again
Posted on 12/6/12 at 1:19 pm to SabiDojo
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I can't take football seriously if this happens.
This pretty much sums up my feelings on that rule.
ETA: frick Goodell
This post was edited on 12/6/12 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 12/6/12 at 1:20 pm to PurpleAndGold86
Onside kicks are recovered at a higher rate than 4th and 15s are converted.
Posted on 12/6/12 at 1:26 pm to PurpleAndGold86
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its not like picking up a 4th a 15 essentially would be drastically easier than converting an onside kick.
Depends on who is trying to convert 4th and 15. Drew Brees and the Saints have a much better chance of getting 15 yards on 1 play than the Arizona Cardinals do. And now that you can fair catch onsides kicks if they don't bounce twice (or is that just a college rule?) they're more difficult to convert as well. Regardless, this would be dumb.
Posted on 12/6/12 at 1:32 pm to jacks40
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I'm more in favor of this rule
I like this rule. Less touchbacks. More returns. Eliminates the "lucky" onside kick. I think it will make teams more aggressive with going for it on 4th down as well.
Posted on 12/6/12 at 1:48 pm to Bumble Bee
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by Tampa Bay coach Greg Schiano. Instead of a kickoff, the team that scored would then take the ball on its own 30-yard line in, essentially, a 4th-and-15 situation. In other words, they could attempt to keep their offense on the field and try to pick up 15 yards, at the risk of turning the ball over on downs; or they could punt.
Posted on 12/6/12 at 2:22 pm to Bumble Bee
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NFL looking into banning Kickoffs
Sarcastaball is becoming a reality!
Posted on 12/6/12 at 4:18 pm to baytiger
This would never get the players' union approval, as it would do away with too many roster spots. If he thought the league's fans got their panties in a wad over the faux refs, he'll flip out when they go nuts over this proposed rule.
Posted on 12/6/12 at 5:26 pm to Bumble Bee
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30-yard line in, essentially, a 4th-and-15 situation.
The 30 is too close. If you don't get the first the other team sends out FG unit and pretty ruins any chance of a comeback. Then punt it and most likely pin the comeback team inside their 20.
Posted on 12/6/12 at 6:29 pm to hottub
Basically 'make-it, take-it'
Posted on 12/7/12 at 8:01 am to medtiger
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Regardless, this would be dumb.
Agree completely, getting rid of the kick would completely suck.
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And now that you can fair catch onsides kicks if they don't bounce twice (or is that just a college rule?)
This is only college. The NFL can still do the "spike" kick where they just try to get it on one high bounce.
Posted on 12/7/12 at 8:03 am to Boomshockalocka
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Onside kicks are recovered at a higher rate than 4th and 15s are converted.
Show me the statistic that says that.
During the 2005 and 2006 season when an onside kick was EXPECTED (because this is what we are discussing) they were recovered only 12% of the time. And this was even before the disallowed bunching all of your players on one side of the football, now you can only have 5 guys on each side.
Show me the stats that say a team couldnt convert a 4th and 15 10% of the time?
Posted on 12/7/12 at 8:07 am to PurpleAndGold86
Can you imagine if this retarded bullshite was implemented the year the Saints won the Super Bowl? The onside kick after halftime wouldn't have existed. That play changed that game.
Secondly, how would you start the halves?
Look, if we go under the assumption that eliminating kickoffs is a certainty, why not just bypass the kickoff altogether and forgo this stupid 4th and 15? Since the onside kick mechanism must remain in the game, the scoring team gets two options--turnover possession to the other team at their 20 or lineup for an onside kick.
The punt or 4th and 15 conversion is no safer than a kickoff, IMO.
Secondly, how would you start the halves?
Look, if we go under the assumption that eliminating kickoffs is a certainty, why not just bypass the kickoff altogether and forgo this stupid 4th and 15? Since the onside kick mechanism must remain in the game, the scoring team gets two options--turnover possession to the other team at their 20 or lineup for an onside kick.
The punt or 4th and 15 conversion is no safer than a kickoff, IMO.
Posted on 12/7/12 at 8:12 am to The Sad Banana
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turnover possession to the other team at their 20 or lineup for an onside kick.
You must've heard Mike and Mike's take on it this morning.
Yeah it would totally suck...surprise onside kicks would be completely removed from the game and those are the ones that are MUCH more successful than anticipated onside kicks.
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