re: NFL elitist blowhards getting a lesson in humility...

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Had they played 3 games in 11 days?

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You are killing me bro.

16 points vs the Chiefs... middle finger for sure

Well, until very recently, this would be considered a stupid-arse thread. Kelly's offense is actually pretty simple, and would be considered a quick fix with no high-end return. You plug in an athletic QB and run a whole lot of read-options and quick passes, you might make the playoffs if the defenses you play can't adjust enough to the different style from normal.
Your QB will have a lifespan about the same as an NFL RB, which is way shorter than what you get out of a classic drop-back guy. He gets worn down, and you have to find another. So, you lose the continuity of keeping the QB 10+ years, and all the experience that guy brings. Or else, you eliminate about 1/3 of the offense removing the run options for the QB... and then you have to become a more traditional offense to stay competitive.

That said, the continued rule changes to protect the QB (and offense in general) might help this style out. It will really suck to watch guys run and slide 20 times a game and nobody can hit them, but that's now available.

As an aside, Manziel would be a terrible fit in Kelly's offense. The key is rapid decisions and quick-hitting plays; Manziel wants to hold the ball and run around for 5 seconds every time he drops back. Sumlin runs "johnny ball", a totally different offense.

Re Kelly and the clock usage, it's dumb to keep exposing his defense. Even good defenses can't face all the extra possessions this offense would give up. It lets the other team break them down more.

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Ryan actually outpaced Brees by a yard in AY/A last season.

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I'm seeing Brees at 8.38 and Ryan at 8.37

The eagles should trade for Cam

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I'm seeing Brees at 8.38 and Ryan at 8.37

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I'm using Pro Football Reference and was referring to this year, sorry.

Brees 7.5

Ryan 8.8

Last year they were identical. But again, that's not me ripping Brees at all.

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Your QB will have a lifespan about the same as an NFL RB, which is way shorter than what you get out of a classic drop-back guy. He gets worn down, and you have to find another. So, you lose the continuity of keeping the QB 10+ years, and all the experience that guy brings. Or else, you eliminate about 1/3 of the offense removing the run options for the QB... and then you have to become a more traditional offense to stay competitive.

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Well, I don't think Kelly's ideal is to run his QB a whole lot. He likes for his QB to be able to break out of situations and run when he can, but his preference would really be a guy that can throw well and make smart decisions. Get rid of it quick and correctly. Vick is neither.

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As an aside, Manziel would be a terrible fit in Kelly's offense. The key is rapid decisions and quick-hitting plays; Manziel wants to hold the ball and run around for 5 seconds every time he drops back. Sumlin runs "johnny ball", a totally different offense.

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I agree. Vick is basically Manziel-esque.

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Re Kelly and the clock usage, it's dumb to keep exposing his defense. Even good defenses can't face all the extra possessions this offense would give up. It lets the other team break them down more.

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I think the counter point would be that he thinks he needs to run up as many points as possible because he knows his D won't stop anyone regardless.

Jaws just said the offense worked and that he was impressed. And guess what? He blamed Michael Vick, saying he was big play or bust.

Eagles and Chip Kelly week 7 humility update

The Eagles 3 wins so far this season come from teams who at this point have a combined record of 1-15.