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re: NCAA Playoffs Look Like A Reality in 2014
Posted on 2/26/12 at 8:30 am to 3rdandlong83
Posted on 2/26/12 at 8:30 am to 3rdandlong83
Perhaps instead of relying on the BCS to give what it deems the "Best 2 teams" it can give us the six most worthy conference champions, and two at large bids. That way a team as good as Alabama was would have a chance for redemption, (as an at large entry that didn't win its conference) but they would have to earn their way back into NC contention by running the playoff gauntlet, instead of being gifted the opportunity to play in the Championship Game by the BCS.
An 8-4 Champion seems very unlikely, but then again the BCS has already seen a team with 2 losses win the BCSCG, so who knows?
I prefer a system that would allow you to "play your way in" instead of relying on subjective criteria to figure out how good you are.
An 8-4 Champion seems very unlikely, but then again the BCS has already seen a team with 2 losses win the BCSCG, so who knows?
I prefer a system that would allow you to "play your way in" instead of relying on subjective criteria to figure out how good you are.
This post was edited on 2/26/12 at 8:31 am
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Posted on 2/26/12 at 8:46 am to loweralabamatrojan
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Perhaps instead of relying on the BCS to give what it deems the "Best 2 teams" it can give us the six most worthy conference champions, and two at large bids.
This is the scenario that most people want to happen. Too bad the Jim Delanys of the world don't really care what the fans (and coaches) want.
Posted on 2/26/12 at 8:49 am to rocket31
people think they're looking for a better system to determine the champ? They're looking for better ways to make money, if that means an 8-4 team is in the playoffs they don't GAF.Posted on 2/26/12 at 8:51 am to Unbiased Bama Fan
Even a "plus one" would be an improvement over the current system. From media chatter, it's likely we will first see a 4 team playoff. That's still better than the status quo. For now.
Determining the college football champion has always been, to this point, an inexact science. It may be that we will see a true champion, sanctioned by CF's governing body (notice I didn't say NCAA)
and approved of by all.
Determining the college football champion has always been, to this point, an inexact science. It may be that we will see a true champion, sanctioned by CF's governing body (notice I didn't say NCAA)
and approved of by all.
Posted on 2/26/12 at 8:57 am to loweralabamatrojan
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this conf champ only business is stupid.
Of course the weaker conferences would like this.
Posted on 2/26/12 at 9:16 am to 3rdandlong83
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Eta: This would effectively make all OOC games, or 1/3 of the schedule officially irrelevant. Say bye bye to any decent OOC game, why risk the injury? Sit those starters when you're playing OOC and rest them up for conference season.
As opposed to the current system, in which LSU loaded up on tough OOC opponents and the gumps played the Kabul School for the Blind and the Little Sisters of the Poor?
If 2011 taught schools anything at all about the B(C)S, it's that you're better off scheduling cupcakes.
Posted on 2/26/12 at 9:33 am to 3rdandlong83
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So essentially you go 8-4 (lose all OOC games) win your conference and play for the NC? 4 loss champions baby!
Where is this coming from? How in the world will a 4 loss team be ranked high enough to make a 4 team playoff? And show me a team that's lost all of its OOC games then run the table in a BCS conference. Some of you just like to throw shite out there to make a retarded point.
The problem I have with this 4 team playoff system is the conference champion rule and the risk a team will take by playing in a conference championship game. I really believe that either all conferences will need to determine a champ the same way. In years such as 2001, 2003, and 2011 when Tennessee, Oklahoma, and LSU were all very clearly top 4 teams in the country regardless of the outcomes of their conference championship games, they'd be left out of this playoff with a loss. I have a problem with that when not every conference has that game.
Posted on 2/26/12 at 9:36 am to medtiger
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The problem I have with this 4 team playoff system is the conference champion rule and the risk a team will take by playing in a conference championship game. I really believe that either all conferences will need to determine a champ the same way. In years such as 2001, 2003, and 2011 when Tennessee, Oklahoma, and LSU were all very clearly top 4 teams in the country regardless of the outcomes of their conference championship games, they'd be left out of this playoff with a loss. I have a problem with that when not every conference has that game.
That's a good point, but the alternative is to have the CCG be meaningless. Oklahoma lost and still made it to the Sugar Bowl. LSU could have lost to UGA and still been in the Dome on January 9.
Posted on 2/26/12 at 10:05 am to Bestbank Tiger
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the alternative is to have the CCG be meaningless.
They aren't meaningless. They determine the conference champion, which is still really important in college football. And, it isn't those teams' fault that their regular season performance was so good that they could afford to lose a game and still be in the top 4. One thing I don't like about college football is how games at the end of the season are valued more than games early in the season. It should be more about who you lost to than when it occurred.
If the point of this system is to get the 4 best teams into the playoff (which is highly debatable), then it's laughable to say a team has to be a conference champion to get in. Wild cards exist in professional sports for a reason.
Posted on 2/26/12 at 10:52 am to loweralabamatrojan
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That's the idea. The BCS devalued LSU's regular season road win in Tuscaloosa, and the SEC Championship by allowing Alabama to play in the BCS Championship game.
it didn't "devalue" anything
the 2 best teams in CFB were from the same division. that will happen sometimes
keeping the 2 best teams out of a 4-team playoff is stupid and illogical
This post was edited on 2/26/12 at 10:53 am
Posted on 2/26/12 at 10:53 am to loweralabamatrojan
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The BCS rendered your previous victory over Alabama on the road worth exactly nothing.
it wasn't worth nothing
had we lost to UGA, that win v. Bama would have been huge in ensuring that we still went to the title game
Posted on 2/26/12 at 10:54 am to BayouBengals03
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The system was crap. If there's a playoff, each other 4 teams should be from different conferences
frick that
it's a stupid and illogical system unless the playoffs select the best teams in CFB
that's the ENTIRE point
Posted on 2/26/12 at 10:55 am to loweralabamatrojan
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Even a "plus one" would be an improvement over the current system.
define "plus one" because there are 3 different systems with that name
Posted on 2/26/12 at 11:05 am to SlowFlowPro
I've been telling everyone for weeks that no playoff will happen unless it's conf champs only
finally seeing the light, some are
in my yoda voice
finally seeing the light, some are
in my yoda voice
Posted on 2/26/12 at 11:07 am to stapuffmarshy
it's stupid
the reason why they want conf champs is to ensure a more even spreading of money, esp with home game options
i still have no idea how they're going to split up the playoff money
the reason why they want conf champs is to ensure a more even spreading of money, esp with home game options
i still have no idea how they're going to split up the playoff money
Posted on 2/26/12 at 11:14 am to SlowFlowPro
no way the Big10/Pac12 agree to a playoff without their champs being guaranteed a spot
so why would the SEC and Big 12 agree to not have theirs guaranteed?
they won't. Add ACC and ND to the mix, 4 "champions" out of the group of 6 is what you'll end up with
so why would the SEC and Big 12 agree to not have theirs guaranteed?
they won't. Add ACC and ND to the mix, 4 "champions" out of the group of 6 is what you'll end up with
Posted on 2/26/12 at 11:15 am to stapuffmarshy
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so why would the SEC and Big 12 agree to not have theirs guaranteed?
i don't think the SEC is that worried, to be honest. not right now
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Add ACC and ND to the mix, 4 "champions" out of the group of 6 is what you'll end up with
which is no better, and possibly worse, than what we have now
Posted on 2/26/12 at 11:18 am to SlowFlowPro
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it's a stupid and illogical system unless the playoffs select the best teams in CFB
that's the ENTIRE point
It should pick the two most deserving teams.
Okie Lite was a conference champion and played a tougher schedule than the gumps. It doesn't matter if anyone subjectively claims that the gumps were "gooder". Objectively, Okie Lite had the better resume and should have been in the Dome.
Posted on 2/26/12 at 11:19 am to Bestbank Tiger
the only people who really pushed for OSU were (1) OSU fans and (2) LSU fans scared of Bama
Posted on 2/26/12 at 11:49 am to SlowFlowPro
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the only people who really pushed for OSU were (1) OSU fans and (2) LSU fans scared of Bama
And 4 of the 6 computers, ie the systems that look at the team's resume and not its name. The voters handed the gumps a free pass.
And it wasn't "scared of Bama" on the LSU side. LSU fans resented the fact that the LOSER of the "Game of the Century" got a bye to the title game while our reward for winning was having to fight through two more tough games to get to New Orleans.
And if the B(C)S is always right as you claim, why do they have to tweak it again and again and again and again and again?
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