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re: NCAA Playoffs Look Like A Reality in 2014
Posted on 2/26/12 at 4:04 pm to H-Town Tiger
Posted on 2/26/12 at 4:04 pm to H-Town Tiger
you can do the same thing with the 4-team playoff
top 2 conference champs + the remaining top 2 teams
top 2 conference champs + the remaining top 2 teams
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Posted on 2/26/12 at 4:04 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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hope that makes sense
nothing you say ever makes sense
Posted on 2/26/12 at 4:05 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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It is really not hard at all. 11 team playoff only conference champions make it(CUSA and MWC merge to make only 10 conference + you make all the indys schedule each other highest ranked team makes it in).
I would geaux in a slightly different direction. If you win your conference but you suck, you don't get in. That applies to not only the Sun Belt, but also teams like UConn in 2010.
I'd also let a wild card in. That takes care of the indys, gets ND (and therefore NBC) on board, and it expands the pool of meaningful games. If your conference is essentially wrapped up, you're playing for seeding or a wild card slot.
I would either take the top 7 conference champs plus one wild card, or all ranked conference champs and fill the field out with wild cards.
If you have a 12-team playoff, 5-8 get first round home games and 1-4 get byes plus second round home games. If you have an 8-team playoff, 1-4 get first round home games.
Posted on 2/26/12 at 4:06 pm to jcole4lsu
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conference champs only is idiotic unless all conferences play a championship game, and even then its still pretty dumb.
its just plain stupid to even consider the conference champ stipulation especially with all conferences? please.
if im notre dame (or any other independent) im joining the MAC asap; you are all but guaranteed a spot in the *playoffs* every single season.
Posted on 2/26/12 at 4:06 pm to jcole4lsu
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oh and conference champs only is idiotic unless all conferences play a championship game, and even then its still pretty dumb.
actually, that makes it worse
I wouldn't limit it to only conference winners, but 2011 looks more like an outlier, most years in the BCS era the top 4 conference winners are in the top 6 at worst. Using it as a kind of tie breaker, Oregon over Stanford for example
Posted on 2/26/12 at 4:08 pm to rocket31
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if im notre dame (or any other independent) im joining the MAC asap; you are all but guaranteed a spot in the *playoffs* every single season
Not in a 4 team playoff you wouldn't.
Posted on 2/26/12 at 4:10 pm to H-Town Tiger
i was referring to turlanderBEAST's 10 team playoff proposal. Posted on 2/26/12 at 4:12 pm to H-Town Tiger
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actually, that makes it worse
it does not make it worse to even the playing field a bit to force all potential teams to go through the extra game.
Posted on 2/26/12 at 4:13 pm to jcole4lsu
conference title games are bad, imho
Posted on 2/26/12 at 4:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
they are terrible with an actual playoff. however its better for everyone to have one than some to have and some not.
Posted on 2/26/12 at 4:16 pm to SlowFlowPro
i agree, kinda surprised the B1G was so gung-ho about getting one.
Posted on 2/26/12 at 4:17 pm to rocket31
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kinda surprised the B1G was so gung-ho about getting one.
Posted on 2/26/12 at 4:19 pm to H-Town Tiger
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That's really not a bad plan, and i agree 8 is too many, as long as its not just the 6 BCS conferences get an AQ. If you could, take the top 6 conference winners as long as they are in the top say 12-15, so no unranked UConn gets in for winning the Big East. If you don't have 6 top 12-15 conference winners, then the next non conference winners get in.
Well in theory i agree with you...but putting the rankings into the automatic bids goes against the "you didn't tell us what we needed to do" argument. for instance, as shitty as it is that conference tourney winners get automatic bids to the NCAA tourney, you don't get bitching from the reg season champ because the rules were clear from the beginning. if there is not objective criteria, there will continue to be an uproar. And granted this doesn't satisfy the midmajor crowd, but it's a start.
Posted on 2/26/12 at 4:20 pm to jcole4lsu
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it does not make it worse to even the playing field a bit to force all potential teams to go through the extra game
I just mean you have a great chance of lesser teams making the playoff by winning the CCG (like LSU 2001)
Posted on 2/26/12 at 4:22 pm to H-Town Tiger
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I just mean you have a great chance of lesser teams making the playoff by winning the CCG (like LSU 2001)
if anyone has to go through it, they all should.
Posted on 2/26/12 at 4:23 pm to SlowFlowPro
i get that, but when your top two conference teams are playing for a title you face the possibility of the loser getting eliminated from a BCS bowl game.
Posted on 2/26/12 at 4:24 pm to jcole4lsu
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if anyone has to go through it, they all should.
in this instance, conferences are allowed to decide how they want to crown their champ
this indirectly brings up the real difference between CFB and all other sports
conferences rule CFB. it isn't like that in any other sport. the NCAA runs those
Posted on 2/26/12 at 4:25 pm to rocket31
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but when your top two conference teams are playing for a title you face the possibility of the loser getting eliminated from a BCS bowl game.
depends on their quality, though
Posted on 2/26/12 at 4:27 pm to Obi-Wan Tiger
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but putting the rankings into the automatic bids goes against the "you didn't tell us what we needed to do" argument.
If everyone knows the stipulation before hand I don't see an issue. The proposal the OP is linking is basically saying top 4 conference winners not much different.
To a certain extent no matter how many teams you have, some one will always gripe, I think SFP has called this they next team fallacy or something like that. I think just the top 4 is fine. I don't like when teams like the Giants win, but even in CBB way more #1 seeds have won, Butler sneaking in 2 years in a row sucks, but no one lower than a 4 seed has won since Kansas in 1988.
Posted on 2/26/12 at 4:30 pm to SlowFlowPro
I just realized the most important question: How will this affect NCAA13? Will they implement playoffs or will you be forever stuck with the B(C)S in franchise mode unless you pony up for NCAA14?
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