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re: NCAA: No Violations, No Penalites on UNC.

Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:59 am to
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Atlanta GA - ITP
Member since Sep 2012
24933 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:59 am to
Finding it more and more difficult to waste my time on college athletics.

I think I should have just quit following after Penn State did not get the death penalty.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:00 am to
The NCAA is pathetic
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
17260 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:04 am to
Let's just end this farce and pay the players already.

With this ruling, LSU has no excuse not to be a powerhouse in every sport. We have bullshite classes available to everybody all over the place and would have no problem offering Coloring 1001 as a class.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8002 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:09 am to
Louisville should have offered EVERY student hookers, not just the basketball players.

Would have gotten off scot free.
Posted by Black n Gold
Member since Feb 2009
15409 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:14 am to
College athletics is simply minor leagues to the NFL and NBA, only slightly more interesting than MLB minor league system. The gameplay is becoming terrible and the front office lacks all integrity.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51271 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:17 am to
The NCAA is completely useless.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36112 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:38 am to
It is both predictable and pathetic that nothing happens to UNC. This scandal is really more egregious than just giving money to recruits. It reveals how little an allegedly serious academic institution cares about providing their athletes an education.

Certainly there are one and dones, and tutors, and other serious transgressions at any number of schools but creating curriculum and then using it to keep eligible your athletes really does rob them of the only pay they legitimately receive. An education that improves them for the rest of their lives.
Posted by ToesOnTheNose213
The present
Member since Oct 2007
2028 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:41 am to
If only USC had committed wide spread academic fraud for decades instead of... um... "should have knowing" that someone was paying Bush to leave school early?
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
25317 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:47 am to
Roy always gets away with it because he looks like a Baptist preacher and he did the NCAA a solid and gave them the smoking gun to bring down Dale Brown.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71595 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:51 am to
Ole Miss going to get wrecked even worse now.
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
139840 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:52 am to
The NCAA had no jurisdiction in this. This was an accreditation issue. The classes were offered to everyone.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
57678 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:52 am to
Not shocking that Greg Stankey is behind this.
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 11:12 am to
So this was all a big waste of time and resources to create a smoke screen phantom that didn’t produce anything in terms of actual consequences? Clearly representative of the most inefficient organization maybe in America that still makes and retains enormous revenue. NCAA consists of clowns.
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
40798 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 11:29 am to
quote:

Roy always gets away with it because he looks like a Baptist preacher and he did the NCAA a solid and gave them the smoking gun to bring down Dale Brown.


Jesus tap dancing Christ........
Posted by HogX
Madison, WI
Member since Dec 2012
5045 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 11:52 am to
quote:

The NCAA had no jurisdiction in this. This was an accreditation issue. The classes were offered to everyone.


So student athletes make up like 2% of the student body (pulling that number completely out of my arse) but make up around 50% of the participants in the classes? I'm sure athletes weren't encouraged to take these fake classes or anything.

Holy shite, the Pandora's box this thing opened.
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
139840 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 11:58 am to
The NCAA can not tell any university what classes they have to offer. The university proved multiple times that the classes were in the catalog and offered open enrollment. The accreditor of the school is who is going to have to fix it.

Carolina was absolutely correct in the defense and once they went that way the NCAA knew they were done.


quote:

50% of the participants in the classes?


This right there kills the NCAA in any type of case they thought they had.
This post was edited on 10/13/17 at 12:01 pm
Posted by DollaChoppa
I Simp for ACC
Member since May 2008
84774 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 12:11 pm to
So at the end of the day, the NCAA basically ruled that UNC is a bad academic institution.

Anyone paying attention already knew this though. Their ROI is shite compared to "little brother's" down the road.

eta: I went out for a little bit with a girl that went to UNC. She was so proud of her school, would talk about how excited she was that she got into the school and couldnt believe it since it was such a prestigious university. SHe majored in some dumb lib arts shite and works the front desk at a hotel now in chapel hill. Classic UNC
This post was edited on 10/13/17 at 12:13 pm
Posted by Breadstick Gun
Colorado Springs, CO
Member since Apr 2009
10171 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 12:32 pm to
What a joke.
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
17260 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 12:52 pm to
quote:

Holy shite, the Pandora's box this thing opened.


Yep. A lot of schools give priority registration to athletes and really smart people.

Open a class to all students but since athletes register first...oh well, our bullshite class is full by the time the non-smart or only sort of smart real students get a crack at it.
This post was edited on 10/13/17 at 12:53 pm
Posted by HogX
Madison, WI
Member since Dec 2012
5045 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 12:52 pm to
quote:

The NCAA can not tell any university what classes they have to offer. The university proved multiple times that the classes were in the catalog and offered open enrollment. The accreditor of the school is who is going to have to fix it.

Carolina was absolutely correct in the defense and once they went that way the NCAA knew they were done.


I'm not saying this isn't technically correct. What I'm saying is that a whole new way to cheat has been officially been given the go-ahead to commence by the NCAA and they can't do shite about it.

Unless they amend their rules to include something about how, even if a class is open enrollment, if it's shown that a disproportionate number of athletes seem to have been pushed toward those certain classes, then it's an NCAA issue. Even then, how do you prove that?

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