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re: NBA to adopt "relegation zone" to prevent tanking. 3 worst records lower lottery odds.

Posted on 4/28/26 at 7:55 pm to
Posted by sgallo3
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Posted on 4/28/26 at 7:55 pm to
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The least talented teams now

Checks notes

Have less of a chance of adding better talent

This is a bad take because least talent and worst record were not aligning. Worst record was just a metric to measure who is willing to throw more games.

Spurs had talent and tanked and got Wemby to add to it.

Mavericks made the NBA finals and then got Flagg.

If you wanna measure teams based on talent to award the pick then do that and throw out records.

The Pacers made the finals last year and tanked this year to have the 2nd worst record. They did it by sitting guys out. They didnt lose all their talent, they decided not to play it to raise their number of losses.
This post was edited on 4/28/26 at 7:58 pm
Posted by UnluckyTiger
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Posted on 4/28/26 at 7:56 pm to
Mavs got Flagg because they gifted Luka to the Lakers. Just like the Pels getting Zion when they gifted AD to the Lakers.
Posted by Kinderman
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Posted on 4/28/26 at 7:57 pm to
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The least talented teams now Checks notes Have less of a chance of adding better talent

Which is also a problem the lottery never addresses. That’s how you have the same handful of teams in the lottery year after year after year because they don’t get lucky enough with ping pong balls to get the elite talents.

Meanwhile San Antonio hits big their one year in the lottery and basically goes from one generational talent to the next.

Fanbases of bad teams need SOME hope and the lottery system hardly ever provides that.
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Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 4/28/26 at 8:07 pm to
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Then teams will tank the play in game.



Nah.
Posted by idlewatcher
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Posted on 4/28/26 at 8:11 pm to
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I don’t mind tanking. At least as a fan when your team is tanking you know through the temporary suffering that there is light at the end of the tunnel.


Unless you’re a Pels fan. Continual short end of the stick mixed with terrible mgmt.
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 4/28/26 at 8:23 pm to
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The current system doesnt award teams for being bad teams, it awards teams that pull their best players out of games to have a worse record than they would have. The jazz would have a lead late in games and take their best players out to lose. Their record is completely artificial.

The wizards were beating the warriors going into the 4th quarter so they took all their starters out and their bench played more minutes than starters.

That wasnt the wizards being the worse team that night, it was them forfeiting a win.

The teams were breaking the system rather than it fulfilling its actual intent.

If this punishes bad ownership, its still an improvement. Being bad shouldn't be incentivized.


On top of all that teams tanking change playoff seeding. If late year a team loses on purpose is playing a team fighting for a 1/2/3 seed it unfairly gives that opponent an extra win. Not saying the worse team would win but it can matter. And it allows those top teams to rest a player or two.

The other impact is fans attending games don’t get to see both teams going at it 100%.
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 4/28/26 at 8:36 pm to
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The other impact is fans attending games don’t get to see both teams going at it 100%.

biggest impact in my opinion.

who wants to watch their team try to lose the game? even if it's the best strategy it kills the game.

make it bad strategy seems like the right move.
Posted by baytiger11
Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 4/28/26 at 8:53 pm to
Wouldn’t they just tank for the 4th lowest seed now? Instead of the lowest seed.

Will be a jockeying of teams trying to win/lose just enough to get 4th lowest.

Silver sure does like dicking with everything he possibly can.
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 4/28/26 at 8:53 pm to
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Wouldn’t they just tank for the 4th lowest seed now? Instead of the lowest seed.

Will be a jockeying of teams trying to win/lose just enough to get 4th lowest

Theres no difference between 4th and 10th. All get 3 balls in the draft lottery.
This post was edited on 4/28/26 at 8:55 pm
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
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Posted on 4/28/26 at 9:05 pm to
Won’t this just move the target instead of eliminating the motivations of literally losing on purpose

Posted by baytiger11
Member since Jul 2020
2495 posts
Posted on 4/28/26 at 9:12 pm to
So everyone in that 4-10 range receives same exact lottery odds? That just seems crazy to me.. And relatively easy to make happen if you know you’re going to miss the post season but still a decent or young talented team.
I feel like it’ll create more situations of already strong teams winning the 1st pick.
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
27215 posts
Posted on 4/28/26 at 9:13 pm to
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Won’t this just move the target instead of eliminating the motivations of literally losing on purpose

Yeah, it moves the target to "dont finish in the bottom 3" rather than "do everything you can to lose as many games as possible"
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
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Posted on 4/28/26 at 9:15 pm to
Right

The Suns this year would 100% have preferred a chance to take Dybantsa over getting beat with hammers in the first round

I don’t think giving decent/good teams more bites at the apple is the way to go here. You’re just adding a different level of incentive to lose.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
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Posted on 4/28/26 at 9:16 pm to
I get the intention but damn, I don’t think a team like Brooklyn could’ve finished outside the bottom 3 if they tried

Just feels like we are missing the forest for the trees here a bit

Posted by Kinderman
Member since Oct 2023
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Posted on 4/28/26 at 9:20 pm to
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In addition, no team would be able to win the top pick in consecutive years or be able to win three consecutive top-five picks.

Spurs loading up with Wemby, Castle and Harper back to back to back, THEN this rule coming into play would be peak NBA.
Posted by SoDakHawk
South Dakota
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 4/28/26 at 9:30 pm to
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Never thought we’d see another commish as trash as Bettman but Silver is really making him earn it


Gary Bettman is the best commissioner in major professional sports.

Let that sink in for a second.
Posted by beaverfever
Arkansas
Member since Jan 2008
36192 posts
Posted on 4/28/26 at 10:30 pm to
Get rid of all incentives and awards for players that don’t play 75+ games. If you don’t want to hoop, gtfo.

Look at the season’s leading scorers. They’re part time players mostly.
Posted by High C
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 11:07 am to
Under the proposal, the Sixers get an extra ball if Embiid plays more than 15 regular season games.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 11:53 am to
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The Pacers made the finals last year and tanked this year to have the 2nd worst record. They did it by sitting guys out. They didnt lose all their talent, they decided not to play it to raise their number of losses.


Or Halliburton was HIM
Posted by MKP2004
Member since Mar 2026
309 posts
Posted on 4/29/26 at 11:58 am to
It's a start.

Still won't completely stop teams from tanking. But this should put a dent in it
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